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Cat seizures

Well, Macy just had another seizure. This one tossed her from her cat tower perch across the lid of the trash can, knocking it off, then getting caught on a basket on the windowsill where I keep my wallet and keys, dumping that, then onto her food/water tray, flipping the water bowl and landing in the now water-filled (and wallet-filled) tray, where she seized for less than a minute on her side, in the water. Other than the dramatics, it was just like the other two (in January and March of last year).

She was on Phenobarbital for six months, from March until September, when the new DC vet recommended we try keeping her off of it (since it is toxic, after all). She’s been fine since then, until today.

Gotta figure this out… is it epilepsy or some household allergy or a tumor or ???

Update: I actually had forgotten: since there’s not a lot that you can do during a seizure once you clear the path to keep her safe, and because I had my phone in my shirt pocket, I snapped a picture during the seizure for future reference. It’s not graphic or anything, but obviously you may want to use discretion when viewing. Pic here. Now, not 10 minutes later, you can find a normal pic here.

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  1. danielle | August 19, 2006 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Hi. I was doing some research on this subject and found your story and pics. I’m sorry to hear that your cat is going thru these seizures. I volunteer for an animal rescue in Scotts. AZ and recently rescued a 4month old tabby from my office complex. He clearly has had no human socilization but after two weeks is doing much better. My two cats don’t like him though. the first week i had him he had a seizure and i had never seen it happen before so of course i flipped out and took him to the emerg. clinic. they sent me home with no good information just to contact my regular vet. he was fine for a week and then just had another one. I will be taking him to my vet, but its unfortanate that he may not get adopted because of this. I’m also not sure how much money I can afford to spend on him so I’m really not sure what Im going to do. Anyways it’s calming to read about others’ incidents and that there is really nothing you can do for the cat while having the seizure. I just sit and cry. Thanks for your story.

    Scottsdale AZ

  2. Justin | August 19, 2006 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    Hi Danielle, I’m sorry to hear about it. We have lucked out in that Macy has only had one seizure in the near-year that we’ve had her off medicine (that we know of). I’ve tried to spend more time with her in some active playing to help her blow off steam in the hopes that this helps with the seizures. We’ll see.

  3. Sara | November 6, 2006 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Hello everyone, I’m sorry to hear about the unfortunante cat seizures. My cat Meesha is 15 years old and up until last night he was a normal cat. He had his first seizure last night I wasn’t home for the seizure but today I have witnessed three so far, one took him down a flight of wooden stairs, the others have all occured while trying to shake his head. They dont last very long but they are still very scary!!! We took him to the vet today and they ran blood test, which we should find out the outcome tomorrow. Every story I have read though has only mentioned one seizure about every month, my Meesha has already had three TODAY!!! Is this normal??? Thank you for the picture as sad as it is, it helps just to know that my cat isn’t the only one who suffers from these seizures…not to mention I’m not the only one who is going through the emotional turmoil of feeling completely helpless.

  4. Justin | November 16, 2006 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    Hi Sara. I’d definitely see a vet and ask them about it — three a day is not normal! They may be able to recommend medication or other treatment, as well as things you can check at home to make sure that’s not the problem (plants, chemicals, etc.) Good luck!

  5. Tashia | November 17, 2006 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Hey, I was just going through websites that talked about cats having seizures and stumbled upon yours. My/my boyfriend’s cat, Bill, had a seizure yesterday and flew off the bed and into the floor. It was the first time I had to deal with it, and it was frightening. He had another within 13 hours, and I am seriously concerned, obviously. I will be taking him to the vet as soon as I can, but the only emergency vet is too far away to go in the middle of the night (says my only ride there). Thanks for taking the picture though, it helped me see what another cat looks like when going through this. I know that Bill locks up and falls to his left side, drooling and such. He’s a siamiese, so you can imagine. Good luck on finding out what’s going on, and don’t worry too much about it.. It’s obvious that your cat has a human caring enough to help, so that’s all that probably matters to her.

  6. Ariel | November 27, 2006 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Good morning. I’m glad I found this blog, or whatever this is. My kitty has had about 5 seizures since Oct. 7th this year. Talk about the scariest, saddest thing I’ve ever witnessed. Seems my research (such that it is) shows that she has to have a blood test. So I think I will try to make an appt. this week with my regular vet for some blood tests. I took her to the ER Vet the first time, and they offered extensive tests/observations for $640. Thanks, but no. I love my little baby, but come on!! And what’s worse, they didn’t do any blood tests. Shouldn’t they have at least done that??
    At any rate, I do hope all of you post what happens to your kitty. I’m very anxious to know.

    At first we thought the cause was the new plants we had–hot pepper plants. Then I discovered yesterday that I had some molded bird seed in the laundry, right next to her litterbox. Not sure if that could have caused these, but it’s gone now. I’ll try to let y’all know what happens to Punkin as soon as I find out. Praying for all your babies…

  7. Cheryl | December 6, 2006 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Just came upon this website looking for seizure remedies. A young female cat who recently adopted us has had two seizures (that we know of) within a weeks time. She fell off the bed onto her back and all four paws were flexing. She urinated and somehow flopped herself over and seemed to be hopping across the room with her claws grasping the carpeting and pulling her along. I managed to get a pillow over her and held her and tried to calm her. I guess the whole thing lasted two minutes and then she walked around dazed. There was no frothing of the mouth. After a half hour or so you would never know anything had happened. We do not have the money to take her to the vet. I’ve read about valium as a treatment. Does anyone know the details such as the quantity and how it is given?

  8. Kylie | December 26, 2006 at 1:59 am | Permalink

    I have a 1.5 year old epileptic cat. It is very sad and often trying as it makes it difficult to travel etc. with others not feeling comfortable taking care of him, but he is a lover. Cheryl, please take your cat to the vet…I know that it can be expensive, but valium can be very hard on their kidneys and from the research I have done and advice from my vet suggests that it sould only be used to stop a prolongued seizure. My cat is on phenobarbitol to aid in preventing seizures. The dose is inexpensive and is delivered orally. Hope this helps some.

  9. kara | December 27, 2006 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Thank you for your post. We have a 3year old cat who had her first experience with seizures on christmas eve. It was very scary. We had no idea what was happening and somehow jammed our fingers down her mouth to make sure she wasnt choking and then proceeded to do her breathing. Boy did we do the wrong thing. But the fact her eyes were completely dialated coupled with her stiffness, led me to believe she had gone. But, she came to very quickly. We rushed her to the emergency clinic and paid $500 for tests. It is important to note that these tests that cost so much revealed that she was a PERFECTLY healthy cat. Not to mention she was running around like nothing had happened within the hour. Now we are in a wait and see position. We have no idea what caused it. But, your picture is exactly what she looks like. Thank you for your post. It has given us more information to be better prepared in the future.

  10. Matt Mincey | January 2, 2007 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    I have a nine month old female tabby who also has these seizures. and as well as your’s her vet put her on phenobarbital, which up to today has been working perfectly. She now has had the worst one ever. Is there any way you can help me with info on this medication and this matter.

  11. Deb Collins | January 4, 2007 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    I have a small siamese mix that has been having seizures for about 1 1/2 years. The phenobarb
    does help. They are not as frequent. I heard taurine defeicency can contribute. Aslo read to give some vitamin c. Anything to make it easier on my little Casey.

  12. Liz | January 6, 2007 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Ok. this JUST happened to my 9 year old cat Aja. It only lasted about a minute. No drooling, no peeing. She did fall off the bed though and it scared the heck out of me. When it was over. Her pupil on the right side wouldn’t dialate very much when I shined a flashlight in her eyes. I’m going to calm down and make an appointment. She seems very restless now though and is “talking” alot. Unfortunately, she is a very skittish cat to begin with and is probably freaking out a bit herself.

  13. Angi | January 7, 2007 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    My cat, Tyson, 1 1/2 years old, has had now 3 seizers in the past 4-5 months. He has always been a little off and gets scared easy. And has a problem tinkling a little on the floor, not full out peeing, just a tinkle. He had his first seizer at my friends’ house during our move and which was right down the street. I did not see it, thank god but they said it was bad. He was foaming out the mouth and just going crazy. I took him to the vet and they thought he just had stress induced epilepsy and just to be real gentle with him and maybe start him on some feline Prozac. My husband and I didn’t like the idea of giving our cat depression meds, so we decided to wait on that. The second seizure was on Christmas Eve, while we were opening gifts with some friends. It started out with him vomiting and then it went into convulsions. It was scary but he recovered. Now this morning around 1am he had another, along with the vomiting. He also was frantic afterwards and jumped up on the counter and urinated. I don’t know want to spend a ton of money to have them tell me my cat is healthy but I don’t want to lose my cat either.

  14. Jenifer | January 11, 2007 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    My cat Vixen who is 16 years old (but looks and acts like he’s 6) had hsi first seizure yesterday. The vet started him on Phenobarbital twice a day for now on but I’m hesitant to start him on it since this was his very first seizure and has had no real illnesses his whole life.

    I’m having a full blood test done on him which we should have the results this weekend.

  15. Lindsay | January 17, 2007 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    My female cat honda is also having seizures. The first one happened in November, however, I didn’t put much thought into that it was actually a seizure. Now, yesterday, she had 2 within 24 hours, so after the 2nd one, I immediately took her to the vet. He did some blood tests, now we are awaiting the results. I also started her on phenobarbital. Just before my husband gave her the 1st dose, she had another..which makes 3 in 36hrs. I am an emergency health care provider, and this freaked me out. I mean, cats are helpless. I love my cat so much, all I could do was sob while they were going on. The first one last atleast 45-60 sec. and the second was only a matter of 10-15 sec. I have also read that if the pheno does not work, then steroids may do the trick if there is an inflammation of the brain and the brain tissue. Who has the money for a MRI and a spinal tap? If I had to come up with it, I will.
    Also, my vet told me that he has only seen seizures in my breed of cat, which is a Russian Blue.

  16. Claire | March 14, 2007 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    My female cat Alley had her first seizure that I know of this morning and just like the rest of you scared the heck out of me. This seizure lasted about a minute and she fell out of her bed and onto the floor. Her sister came running from upstairs and could sense that something was wrong. I am taking her to the vet this afternoon so hopefully we can try to solve Alley’s problems. Good luck to everyone.

  17. Justin | March 14, 2007 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Sorry to hear about it, Claire. If anyone hasn’t seen it, I posted recently about the latest with Macy.

  18. Sarah | March 14, 2007 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    I did not see your update about Macy, where is it at? I recently took in a stray and Sunday March 11th was his first seizure. He was completely asleep and it threw him off the sofa and onto the ground where he convulsed, his limbs became rigid, he seemed to be choking, he also was kicking his hind legs in a way that they were scratching his own stomach so fur went flying. It probably actually lasted between 1-2 minutes even though it seems a lot longer Immediately after the first seizure he was disoriented and just kind of sat around then within five minutes he was back to normal. Then at around 3 am this morning (wednesday march 14th) he had his second seizure where he sort of spun on his side, started convulsing, threw himself from the bed to the floor, and had the same general symptoms as the first. This one lasted around the same amount of time. SO ths morning I made a vet appointment and they said they couldn’t get me in for 2 weeks. Long story short this afternoon (about 12 hours later) he had a 3rd seizure. same Symptoms but I felt like this one lasted longer. SO I immediately called the vet and convinced them to fit me in tomorrow morning. I am scared for my stray kitty who I thought I was going to be able to keep. Everyone cross their fingers for me snd I will post what the vet tells me tomorrow.

  19. Justin | March 14, 2007 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    Again, not an official recommendation, but my vet said if you get seizures more than once a month, you should go to an emergency room ASAP.

  20. Sarah | March 15, 2007 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Well my kitty had his fourth seizure which puts him at 3 in 24 hours. Same symptoms, except this time he did urinate and it seemed to take him longer to reccoperate after this one. WE went to the vet this morning and he said seizures are caused by a host of problems (epileplsy, neurological problems, food allergies, you name it) and others which could be tested for using blood tests and he did lots of feeling around on Elvis’s belly because he said often times it could be an issue with the cat’s liver. He said that he did not want to prescribe any medicine to prevent the seizures before we get the bloodwork back because 1)There is a chance he may not have any more seizures on his own and 2)He wants to wait and see if the blood test points to anthing that could be causing them. He did however prescribe a valium suppository, just in case there was an instance when ELvis went into a longer seizure and didn’t stop. He said then the valium could be used to stop a prolonged seizure, and even though I told him most of Elvis’ seizures last only 1-2 minutes he said he felt better knowing that “IF” there was a prolonged seizure I could do something to stop it and not be helpless. He also reccomend keeping a log of any seizures that Elvis has from now until we get the blood work back. So hopefully there won’t be any but I’ll be back to post any future results.

  21. Sherry | March 20, 2007 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Just wanted to say thank you for the vet comments posted here. Also, to say that seizures may be OK for years. My now 17 year old cat, Chrissie, started having them when she was about 10 or 11. However, we went months or even years between episodes, so I never had her extensively checked. During normal checkups she was very healthy. She had one today that is taking her longer to get over than usual. Basically vomits, pees and poops, occasionally flops over but this time she did not totally spazz out with convulsions. Just some odd twitching.

    Given all the possible causes you described, I cannot justify tons of money on my ancient kitty. She is somewhat senile, stopped grooming herself years ago, and seems to see well but has a lot of gray in her eyes. So, as long as these continue to be intermittent, I will try to calm her and let her keep going. I learned some hard lessons years ago about spending tons of money on a terminally ill pet. Seems to create more distress and prolong life only minimally. So, if the seizures are infrequent and of short duration, at least in Chrissie’s case they have not shortened her life. She is clean now and resting comfortably, and her occasional mournful sounds might be more about some wet fur on her hind legs than the incident.

  22. Kari | April 1, 2007 at 9:22 am | Permalink


    I haven’t had a chance to read all the comments to see if someone had an experience like mine. I have an almost 5 year old female cat named Wilson. I have always fed her top quality food until a few years ago, I picked up a much cheaper brand at Walmart in hopes to save some money. In her case, that is when her seizures started. She had what I witnessed at least one daily. Because we could not afford the vet at the time, I researched food allergies since that was what recently changed. I immediately put her back on Felidae and the seizures stopped. I did not witness another for over one year until again recently I tried to save money and figured I would purchase the Trader Joe cat food. I figured it had to be of a higher quality and perhaps it is. But guess what? After a week of this new food, Wilson started seizing last night. But now she had several shorter ones in a row with very heavy salivation. I am going to the pet food store and will only buy the Felidae today and will be calling the vet in the morning. What I am thinking is there must be some ingredient that is not in the Felidae that is in these others that she is hypersensitive to. I am hoping it is only that although you will read all over the web that seizures to food allergies in cats are rare, it seems to be the issue in our case. I will discard the rest of the TJ food and try this again. If the Felidae gets rid of the seizures then I will know that Wilson must be allergic to some ingredient that these other cat foods must have.

    All the food I am discussing I have nothing for or against and it is all dry food. I am not trying to promote or raise issues about any of these brands. I just think in Wilson’s case she has a food allergy that many of the foods seem to carry. It’s just what worked in our case.

  23. Donna C | April 1, 2007 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    Boy, am I glad I found this site.

    Very early this morning my 12yr old cat, Katie had what I would consider a seizure. She started flailing on the chair, then fell off. But, it was more like she jumped and while on the floor, attempted to get up while having her seizure. She seemed aware she was going through something terrible.

    It lasted only a matter of seconds. When she got up and walked, her equilibrium was completely off. Her eyes were dilated and she was acting odd. While laying in my bed, she was moving her front paws strangely and slowly.

    The whole episode from start to finish was maybe 5-10 minutes. After which, she was back to normal, albeit a bit quiet. Her walking was back to normal, she had something to eat, then back to sleep. She’s been fine since then.

    I don’t know if this is her first episode. I know I should take her to the vet, but I’m always afraid I’ll be charged $1,000 or more for tests for the sake of having tests.
    I don’t want to be one of those lay persons who gets sucked into paying out oodles of money while emotionally vulnerable.

    This happened to my mom when her cat had a stroke. They claimed they needed to do tests to be sure. I was against it, as it was clear the poor lil guy had a stroke. Mom went ahead with the tests and over $1,000 later the vet put the cat down, because he said it was a stroke.

  24. Dale Johnston | April 2, 2007 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    It is so helpful hearing other stories. Our female cat, Hobie is nearly six. She had her first seizure Saturday night. I awoke at 1:30 am from the sound of her vomiting. Her head was bobbing and her eyes were ‘jiggly’. She tried to move but just fell over. I took her to the emergency vet ($740). They called the next day and said she was fine. All of her blood tests were good. They recommended not doing a CAT scan or MRI yet. Like everyone else - cost is a big issue. She had another seizure this morning. She wanted to lie at the foot of our bed instead of in her cat bed (where she had the 1st seizure). My husband heard her hit the floor. Her seizures are accompanied by vomiting, drooling, panting and defecating. They seem to last an hour or more. I understand that can be the post seizure period, but she can’t walk and her eyes are moving quickly - I call them jiggly eyes. I took her to the vet still out of it. The kept her today. They are getting the info from the emergency vet & will make a recommendation today

  25. Dale J | April 3, 2007 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    The vet thinks Hobie has a brain tumor which she said is the same thing as cancer. She thinks that because Hobie is almost six. Epilepsy is normally in cats 1-5 yrs old. They said we could get a CAT scan & spinal fluid test ($1100) or take her to the vet school 2 hrs away for a MRI ($1600). We opted for the Phenobarbital given twice a day. They have these really cool treats called pill pockets that you can hide the pill in. We go back to the vets in 3 weeks to have her blood work checked. Too much of the drug can damage the liver.

  26. Donna C | April 5, 2007 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    Oh my, Dale. How frightening for you. I hope the meds help. I had a dog which had epilepsy, and he lived out another 5 years, with only small seizures and rarely.

    I took my cat Katie to the vet and after $400 in organic tests, it all came back normal. The vet kept trying to convince me to do the full litany of tests, which would’ve gone well over $1,000.

    I opted not to, because if it is brain cancer am I going to spend another few thousand to have it removed? Nope. I love Katie like a crazy woman, but I can’t put myself into debt for a senior citizen cat.

    So far I haven’t seen her have another seizure. She’s playing and eating and doing her constant talking to me as usual. The vet told me if she has seizures more than once every few weeks, then she might need meds. But if the seizures are infrequent and last only a few seconds, she can live with it.

  27. satoko | April 11, 2007 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    My 10-year-old cat, Mini, has been having a Seizure problem for almost a year. It had been happening only once a month or so, but last 2 weeks she had total of 4, last 24 hrs she had 2. My vet advised me to give her medication so I started giving her today. It’s been so hard for me to go through this many times at once and I can’t stop crying. I was told most likely it is caused by brain tumor. I have been thinking about trying homeopathy. Has anyone tried that before? Has anyone trird PetAliveEase Sure? Supposed to be all natural herb. I want my baby to live happy healthy long life. By reading this Blog helps me and makes me realize I am not alone going through this.

  28. David | April 11, 2007 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    Our 7 year old female tabby, Sadie, was diagnosed with diabetes about a month ago. She was doing fantastic on injected insulin and then suddenly had a terrible insulin reaction and seizure. When we got her to the ER her blood sugar was 28! This was Monday and she has had 3 more seizures since. Our vet, the ER vet and an internist have give us 3 possibilites. The first is that a seizure caused by low blood sugar can cause a toxicity in the brain which should resolve on it’s own. The second is that the diabetes caused a problem with electrolytes which caused the seizure and that should resolve on it’s own. The third is more frightening …that a mass in the brain hause caused both the diabetes and seizures. The amazing thing is that the diabetes has resolved itself and her blood sugars are normal. Apparantly she began producing insulin on her own and thus the insulin reaction that started this whole seizure thing. I hope this helps someone else and we will post updates on Sadie as we watch and wait.

  29. Dale J | April 12, 2007 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    We have had Hobie on a half a tab of Phenobarbital twice a day for a week and a half. She is so acting so drugged that it is pitiful. She can’t jump up on anything any more but she still tries & can’t make it up or down. She is just so lethargic. I talked to the vet about giving her 1/4 pill twice a day. She said to try it but the 1/2 dose is the correct amount for her. I don’t know whether she will get used to the medicine or if the brain tumor is causing problems. A friend had a dog with a brain tumor who only lasted a week. Does anyone have experience with Phenobarbital?

  30. Justin | April 12, 2007 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    @Dale: It takes a little while to kick in, something like two weeks according to our vet. Macy was a little lethargic for about a week, though — not jumping right, losing balance, etc. But she got it over it just fine.

  31. satoko | April 12, 2007 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    Hi everyone. This is the 2nd day of my Mini on the medication. As far as when I am home, she hasn’t had any seizure for 2 days. She’s playful and very active. I am taking her to homeopathy, which is going to cost me a few hundred dollars. If this seizure is caused by brain tumor, which is what my vet thinks, I would like to find out if there is anyway it could slow down and help her in natural way. I was crying for 2 nights but I have to be strong now. After all, we are the only one who can be there for our cats. Cats can sense something is up if we were crying. I will update how the homeopathy goes. Has anyone tried?

  32. David | April 13, 2007 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Sadie hasn’t had a seizure since she came home Tuesday afternoon and that is wonderful. She is weak in the back legs and we have to help her in and out of the litter box. That’s the good news. The bad news is that her excessive thirst appears to be returning. We are waiting for a test to come back that shows if she has any of her own insulin in her system so we will know how to proceed. If she is making her own but it’s not enough, she will be really hard to regulate and I don’t ever want her to go so low again that she has another seizure. I guess we will have to let her run high and deal with the problems that causes but at least her quality of life will be better.

  33. chantel | April 14, 2007 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    I have read through most of the comments and I feel a little better knowing that I am not the only one. My cat Cheerio is 3 years old and just had her first seizure on Sunday. At first I did not kno what it was, she rested her head down and started to meow really loudly, like she was crying. This happened for three days and on Thursday I took her to the vet. The vet started her on 1/2 of Phenobarbital once a day and I was told to call back on Friday for the blood test results. However, when I called I was told that she was busy and would call me back, well, she didn’t, so I called back today and was told the same and of course she did not call back. I am getting a little upset. This morning was especially scary because she was laying down and started to urinate and it seems like she did not know what was happening. I think I am going to go back to the vet on Monday for her results instead of calling.

  34. margo | April 18, 2007 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    Our 17 year old cat started having seizures about a year ago, about 1 every 2 weeks, progressing to twice a day. We tried very small doses of phenobarbitol, but the side effect of extreme lethargy left her losing the ability to walk. Blood tests had ruled out the most common underlying fixable causes, so another vet suggested small amounts of Valium, 1/4 mg, which was not enough so we went to 1/2 mg, which is a 2mg people dose cut into quarters, twice a day, and she hasn’t had a seizure since, with no side effects, (though maybe liver/kidney damage, but she’s 17.) Has been 1 1/2 months seizure-free….hope this helps….there seems to be no one remedy.

  35. david james | April 22, 2007 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Hello, my cat (Kitty) had a seizure yesterday just like the above cats. She also had her front paw deep inside her mouth with her jaw locked, I forced her paw out but am wondering why she did this and if it can be dangerous?

    Any help will be appreciated.

    Thanks, Dave

  36. Donna C | April 24, 2007 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    David, that must’ve been frightening. Please don’t put your hand in her mouth while she’s having a seizure. My katie has had 2 seizures and both times her right paw raised almost in slow motion and hung in the air for a few seconds. It was obvious she wasn’t aware of it. Possibly with your Kitty, putting her paw in her mouth is just another stage of her seizure. Most seizures last only a few seconds and if it looks as if she’s not hurting herself, let her be.
    My katie went for xrays Saturday. Her liver is a bit enlarged. The vet wants to put her through tests for viruses that can’t be cured, but can be treated with anti-seizure meds, the same type they’ll give her for seizures anyway. So, I’ll forgo the tests ($300) and get the meds.
    As for her liver, I’ll ask the vet for food that might take some stress off her liver. Has anyone any suggestions for what kind of food or supplements?

  37. david james | April 25, 2007 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    I’ve arranged to take her to the vet on Saturday.
    Kitty is 19 years old and hope the Vet can do something for her.
    Thanks for your info, David

  38. Donna C | April 25, 2007 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Wow!!! 19 years old. Keep us posted on her situation, David. I’m curious as to what they say the problem might be.

    Good luck. :)

  39. Ariel | April 26, 2007 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    Dale–you asked about Phenobarbitol and the effect of it on kitty. She will get used to it. My baby is taking 1.5 mL twice a day in liquid form. I put it on her wet food that she gets 2 times a day. I think she can taste it, b/c sometimes she won’t eat the food at all. But if I leave it out, she’ll eventually eat it. But the effects of the new meds do wear off in about a week. Punkin weighs 6lbs and is about 11 years old.
    I experienced almost all of the symptoms described above, and discovered that Punkin was having Gran Mal seizures. But she hasn’t had another seizure since Dec. 2006 when I began the phenobarb.
    I did find a lump on her belly, and vet wants to remove it and biopsy it. For $800, I don’t think I will. I, too, love Punkin like a crazy woman, but she is a CAT. so until I can sense that she is in pain, she will have her little lovely kitty lump and continue to bask in my loving embrace until she grows tired of me.
    So keep chins up! Phenobarb. works, and side effects are minimal. Kitty will be ok :-) that’s all I wanted to hear…Punkin will be OK.

  40. cat | May 1, 2007 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    my cat taji had his 1st seizure today. he is 3 1/2 years old, orange tabby. he had his seizure in the bathroom sink (where he sleeps) and it was the most horrifying experience…i thought he was dying before my eyes. after about 30 seconds, he jumped out of the sink and ran under the bed and also defecated. i took him to the vet and they took his blood to run some tests, so i will find out in a couple of days. my big question is that is it possible that this seizure will be an isolated incident and never happen again? every post that i’ve read on this site seems to suggest that once it begins, it happens regularly. any thoughts?

  41. Donna C | May 2, 2007 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    Hi cat
    So far my katie has only had 2 that I know of. I think it’s really 2 because I noticed after both, for the next day she was lethargic, otherwise she’s her old self. My brother is epileptic and whenever he has a seizure, he’s also very tired the next day.
    My vet said after the 1st seizure, katie might never have another. But she also said if the seizures are several weeks apart, no meds are really necessary. So far it’s been almost 3 weeks since katie’s last seizure. I got meds from the vet, but haven’t administered them yet. I want to see if another seizure occurs.
    Good luck!

  42. Leslie | May 6, 2007 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    I’m so glad to find this site. My B.J. who is 17 had what I assume was her first seizure yesterday and it scared me to death. She was in the recliner with me as usual and she stood up and kept standing. Then all of a sudden she jumped down, threw up, pooped “cow patties” and totally emptied her bladder and fell to her side laying there for what seemed an eternity because I as freaking out not knowing what to do. She had a wide eyed look like the picture Justin posted. (Thank you so much for posting that so I know others are oing the same thing.) It was Saturday but I called the vet I go to and made an emergency trip with her to the office. Of course by the time I got her to the office she was somewhat normal except for drooling and talking up a storm. She was still unsteady on her feet. They took blood work and her liver reading was very high, as was her blood sugar reading but the vet said that could have come from the episode itself instead of the episode being caused by it. She might have been having seizure while I was at work because I’v been finding more incidents of vomit than usual.

    The vet injected her with fluid just under the skin because she was slightly dehydrated. Her white count was a ittle elevated so they put in Penicillan, steroids to mae her feel better and Reglan to calm her stomach. They injected it under the skin instead of me leaving her there at the office on an IV, saying that her body would absorb it in between 6 to 10 hours. She looked pathetic with that big hump on her back and when is slipped down on one side - then eventually down into her lgs.

    B.J. wouldn’t let me out of her sight and was very talkative but seemed almost normal. Then about 6 hours later she was again laying in my lap in the recliner when all her hair stood on end, her eyes got wide with that strange look and she flew out of my lap running to the back bedroom where she fell over on her side and was jerking all over for what seemed like another eternity while I stood helpless.

    In a couple of minutes she tried to stand up and wobbed over to lean against my leg. She was dazed and couldn’t keep her balance and finally laid back down. I sat on the floor calming her for about 10 minutes and she seemed to return to normal. She hasn’t had a seizure today but she won’t let me out of her sight and she wants to lean against me. She’s laying here beside me in the recliner now and occasionally her head starts wobbling for a few seconds but I rub her gently and she starts purring and goes to sleep.

    Tomorrow I have to leave her to go to work though and I worry about what will happen while I’m gone. Mandy, by 13 year old cat, was scared watching her and is staying away for some reason. Mandy usually tries to soothe B.J. when she is sick or upset. Maybe when I go to work she will take over for me.

    After reading all the posts I don’t see there is much I can do but love her and try to make our time together calming. Ill get other blood results Tuesday if there is anything else that shows up.

    Oh yes - I forgot to mention that she has had a large growth on her chest that has been there for years but has increased in size recently making it hard for her to lay down on her stomach. The vet has always thought it was a fatty tumor though and has always recommended against operating on her for it. I don’t know if its growth affected this or not.

  43. Sherri | May 8, 2007 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    This has been the most informative site on cat seizures I have found. I too am glad I am not the only one experiencing this phenomena with my cat. I did not realize how common seizures were in cats of all ages. My 16-yr. old Maine Coon just had his second seizure. After the first seizure I immediately took him to a vet hospital where they ran extenisve blood tests that all came out “ok.” When I go to the vet tomorrow, I feel as if I am well prepared to assist the vet in helping my kitty. Thanks for sharing your fears, strategies, and concerns on this site. It has been invaluable peace of mind tonight.

  44. Wendy | May 9, 2007 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Boy, what a lot of great info on cat seizures! My 15-yr. old cat Merlin had his first seizure 2 years ago then didn’t have another one for a year and a half. He had 5 seizures in one day 5 months ago. It was a Saturday so I had to take him to the Animal ER and he had to stay 2 nights for tests and to be put on Vallium. Very expensive but he’s my baby. The Valium calmed him down and he didn’t have any seizures while in the hospital but he was extremely lethargic and didn’t seem to know or care who I was when I went there to visit him twice a day (he is normally very affectionate). The tests came back and his bloodwork was OK but his amonia level in the liver was off the charts high. The vet said that the tests suggested he got into something toxic but he’s an inside cat and we don’t have any kind of chemicals lying around. I checked with Truly Nolen pest control who sprays our house but they said their chemicals are non-toxic. He was also extremely dehydrated and had to go to the vet almost every day for a week to get fluids injected. The vet put him on 5mg of Prednisone once a day. It seemed to help but he still has seizures about once a week but it may be more because I’m not home from 9-5. He does not vomit but has the really scary uncontrollable jerking, his body contorts, urinates a little and they last about a minute or so. When they stop, he is temporarily blind, eyes completely dialted, he dazed and can not walk straight for a few minutes. Sometimes just after he can see again, he goes right for his food and eats a lot. I am interested to hear what anyone might know about food allergies. I have not heard of the food someone mentioned called “Felidae” but I will try it. My vet also mentioned that it could be a brain tumor but it would be very expensive to do tests/surgery and would not be easy for a 15 year old cat to tolerate such a severe operation, he could die during the process I love this cat like a child but want to put him through it at his age. If anyone has had good results with homotherapy, please post comments. Thanks and best wishes to all of you, I had no idea so many cats had seizures!

  45. carolyn | May 9, 2007 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    I am the only one who thinks this is unusual that all these cats of different ages share so many symptons and that these postings are coming so frequently in the last few months? My 17 yr old female cat Lupe’ has always been healthy as a horse until about 2 or 3 weeks ago when she started acting lethargic and sticking so close to me and my husband. On Friday morning, 4/27/07, she had a gran mal seizure like the ones previously described. I took her to our regular vet who did the blood work which came back normal, give her a cortisteriod shot and a refferal to a neurological specialist in case she seized again. She did seize again the next Saturday morning and twice more before I could get her checked in; one on the way to the hospital where I pulled over to help her as best I could. They did all the test progessively ending with a CT scan on Monday all came up “un-remarkable” with the exception of slightly elevated amonia(sp) levels. $3000. later and still no answers I drew the line at putting her through a painful and stressful spinal tap. The doctor sent us home with phenobarbital 2x daily which has her so lethargic and wobbly along with the excessive drinking and eating that I am concerned about keeping her on it. He also perscribled strong antibiotics and lactulose to try to lower the amonia level. To date she hasn’t had another seizure that I know of but she is stil so wobbly she can’t move around much and has stopped grooming herself; leaving it to me which I don’t mind and seems to make her happy as she purrs contendedly.
    I had started to try several different types of healthy food for her and nothing seemed to stick until I gave her Natural Balance and that’s when these sympton’s seem to have started and culminated with the seizures. I took the last opened can with me to the hospital just in case it might be helpful, but of course they don’t even begin to have the facilities to test something like that and the food quickly deteriated. I wish now I had frozen it until I could figure out what to do.

  46. Wendy | May 14, 2007 at 6:45 pm | Permalink


    After I posted my last comments, I searched for homopathic treatments. I found a website that advertised a natural treatment for seizures in cats and dogs. Then I clicked on “For Pets”, then there is a column of illnesses on the left and I clicked on “Epilepsy/Seizures” and I ordered the PetAlive EaseSure for was $29.99 + S & H which is nothing compared to the nearly $3,500 I’ve spent on him this year…also got no real answers from tests. I just got it in the mail today, thank god because he had 2 seizures on Saturday, so I went home at lunch to give him a dose. I mixed 3 drops it in just a few teaspoons of water, put it in a syringe and squirted it in his mouth. You are supposed to give it 3 times a day. Will let you know how/if it works. But in answer to your first question, no you aren’t the only one who thinks this is so unusual, I certainly do. I keep thinking there must be something causing it (food? household product?). However I also rescued a diabetic cat over a year ago and he does not have seizures and they both eat the same food. It’s very frustrating.

  47. KK | May 15, 2007 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    Scruffey, my 15 year old cat, has diebates and is on insulin. She is holding her weight and doing very good. She is a house cat that never goes outside. Yesterday at 4:00pm, I used Advantage Flee Drops on her. At 2:30am, she was vomiting small drops of white foam. At about 3:30 am, she had a siezure. After we both calmed down, I bathed her and tryed to remove the flee drop. Help. What do I do now. She seems to be better at this time.

  48. Wendy | May 15, 2007 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    KK, I would get her to the vet immediately, or call them. Who knows what effect flea drops have on diabetic cats…it may have effected her blood surgar level which is dangerous, as I’m sure you already know. Wish I could be more help but I live in the desert area in California and there are no fleas here….no need for flea treatment. Hope all goes well!

  49. Lynn | May 22, 2007 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    I have a 9 month old Russian blue. Two wks after his vaccines he developed 105 fever. Given clavamox. 2 months later he was neutered and given shots. 20 days later his hind legs became almost paralyzed. Vet put him on Prednisone. All blood tests were normal. After 3 wks he seemed much better. Off Pred. for 2 wks. and sudden onset of paralysis again this time worse. He is now on Pred and Anirobe (3 wks). Can struggle walking like someone with Palsy. Eats out of my hand. This morning he had a seizure (I didn’t realize what was happening - I thought he was dying. 15 minutes later he was sitting up. Does anyone have any idea what this whole sad illness is? I was told to go to a neurologist - More than I can ever afford. Does Pred cause seizures. I would do anything I could for this beautiful kind Russian Blue kitten - Little Harry. Any thoughts would be so appreciated for my little boy!

  50. Wendy | May 22, 2007 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    How SAD! If I were you I’d find another vet. I’ve heard that kittens can have adverse reactions to vaccinations. It sounds like his problems started just after them. I’m certainly no expert (or vet) but my cat who is having seizures is and has been on Pred for a couple of years (5 mg per day) so that’s a real good question. He was given Pred for allergies because he was coughing so hard that he was spitting up blood and the vet thought it was allergies. I’m going to ask her if she thinks it could be causing seizures. Try going to the website I listed in comment #49 above. There is a lot of info there about seizures and also about illnesses that seem to effect Russain Blue cats. Good luck to you and Harry and if I find out anything more, I’ll post. What’s amazing to me is that it’s so hard to nail down a cause for these seizures.

  51. Justin | May 22, 2007 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Just a note that I’m still following the discussion here and have nothing new to report about Macy. She has been on Phenobarbital since February and has not had a seizure yet and is otherwise doing ok. Keep the stories and experiences coming and hopefully we can all benefit.

  52. MICHELLE | May 25, 2007 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    My poor cat Sasha was perfectly healthy and seizure free UNTIL I HAD HER VACCINATED ON FEB 25TH, 2006! After an hr wait the vet injected what was supposed to be vaccines and then myseriously injected a steroid shot! Dexmethasone! ….. Later that same day Sasha stroked out and fell off table approx 3 ft!
    She was paddling violently, foaming at mouth and had blood in her mouth.. from biting her tongue due to fall! We thought for sure she was dying!….. Her hair on face and some on body had grey all through it ….. I had to hospitalized her twice .. they just hooked up IV’S! She started having seizures more frequently 2-3 month!…. So I had to get her on PHENOBARBITAL … it has really helped! … after 6 months and not seeing any seizures I thought I would cut the dose back by only a 1/4 less and within 2 days she stroked out again! So now she’s back to 1/2 tablet daily at night only… I haven’t seen any seizures… This is less than I should give but I’m trying to control with the least amount of drug if possible because too much can lead to liver failure! Iv’e taken her to 3 other vets for x-rays, bloodwork and feline leuk test … negative! None can tell me anything is wrong!…. her bloodwork is normal except for the platelet count is a little low! She’s such a sweet heart and sleeps with us every night! Some other vets have asked me why she was given a steroid shot on top of the vaccines……. They think that it’s all the vets fault for her cause of seizures…. I swear the shot was huge .. nothing like what cats vaccines are usually only 1 ml!
    I agree she was given the wrong stuff and vet was trying to cover it up! Now it’s ruined my cats life and mine! I feel horrible for this and wish I would of never went! This vet was of course in total denial and acted like she cared less!…. Rockwell pet clinic in oklahoma caused this!

  53. Conny | May 26, 2007 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    I am so glad I found this site. My 10 year old cat started to have seizures about 4 month ago. Blood and urine tests didn’t show anything unusual. The vet thinks brain tumor and I am hoping it is just a food allergy. The whole problem started when I played around with her food. I gave her certain dry food and wet food brands for years but then switched to a different diet because not every store sold her dry food and her kind of wet food was recently on the black list of contaminated food (not the particular brand as far as I know). Her seizures started when I played around with her food. Ok this may be coincidence but… So I went back so her old dry and wet food brands. I may be going crazy but when I feed her only the dry food, out of convenience, she has seizures once a day. Since 4 days she only gets her wet food, so far no seizure. In any case I will pick up some medication today but I am not sure if I should give it to her.
    Just some thoughts

  54. Dale J | May 30, 2007 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Just an update - We have had Hobie on a quarter of a tab of Phenobarbital twice a day since the middle of April. She is doing well- no more seizures. Her blood tests were good at the 2 week mark so we don’t go back to the vets for 6 months. From time to time, she still doesn’t jump good. She will miss her jump target occasionally. Sometimes, she will get on the hamper or chair and want us to get her down. All in all, I am pleased to have no more seizures. The Pill Pockets are the ticket for us. She thinks she is getting a treat! Thanks for all of the information and encouragement!

  55. andrea | May 31, 2007 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Can anyone tell me what they’re paying for a prescription of Phenobarbital per month? My cat has been having monthly seizures since February and now they’re becoming weekly. Unfortuanately, I’m not in the financial situation to put her through testing. I feel terrible about it and am not sure what to do. Thanks to everyone who has taken time to contribute to this page. It’s the most helpful info I’ve found online so far.

  56. Justin | May 31, 2007 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    @andrea: When we had Macy on the Phenobarbital originally a couple years ago, I was getting the prescription filled at a CVS (national drug store chain in case you haven’t heard of it). It took some wrangling, but they were able to do pet meds and it was costing about $8/month. I had them do liquid so that my wife could handle it better when I wasn’t around — Macy is good with pills but Michelle was less willing to stick her fingers in Macy’s mouth than I was :-)

    Now, I’m getting liquid from a local pharmacy and it’s like $38/month. I want to go back to CVS, but I need to call the vet and have them write a script, if they will. They wouldn’t do it initially, but I think I just have to explain the situation a bit better.

  57. andrea | May 31, 2007 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    thanks for the info, justin. is the medication administed daily? i’m thinking of going to the vet to ask about a prescription for simon, but am concerned about consistency with summer vacations coming up. i’ve heard it’s bad to miss even one dose.

  58. Justin | May 31, 2007 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    @andrea: It’s administered every twelve hours, every day. I usually do about 7am and 7pm. It’s become a real pain because Michelle and I travel out of state at least one weekend a month, and usually more, so we have been boarding Macy a lot, where she was fine for 2-3 days herself in the past. We’ve been trying to limit boarding to once/month as well as getting her better at traveling in the car so when possible, we can bring her with us.

  59. sam and dessa | June 3, 2007 at 3:33 am | Permalink

    im so sorry that your cat is goin through a rough time recently somthing happened to our cat and we dont know what we thought it might be a seizure but were not for sure her back legs arnt moving but her front paws will she just had her second batch of kittens and well we thought it might be somthing with that but than we saw your cat we kinda still think it might be a seizure but we dont know she was fine earlyer so now were tryin to figure out what it is if you have any information that will help us please email us thanx

  60. Carol | June 3, 2007 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    My 2 yr old siamese male had a seizure today.
    Since he is un-neutered, I had him in his large cage in our sunroom.
    I heard thrashing…..he was on his side, legs moving and saliva.
    No urinating. It was just about a minute. MY female siamese just stared at him.
    He was OK, after, I held him for awhile, he was back to his normal self.

    He had eaten his usual Fancy Feast about 5 hrs earlier…and always has his usual dry food.

    The only change, we had used him as a stud about 5 days ago & he may have eaten the female’s food.
    I will call the Vet tomorrow… scary, because he is so young.

    I thought it only happened in older cats.
    We were going to get him fixed next month…now I’m afraid to have him put under.

    Any advice is appreciated.

  61. Stephanie | June 3, 2007 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    To; MICHELLE | May 25, 2007 at 12:52 pm
    You have probably spent over a thousand dollars on vet bills. Have you thought about trying to recover this by going to small claims court? I urge you to do this. Also, please (!) report this vet to the American Vet Assoc. This is very serious and should NOT go unreported. Please don’t turn away like many other people would. Someone else’s beloved family member may be this vet’s next victim. You may be able to prevent it.

  62. margo | June 5, 2007 at 2:40 am | Permalink

    Concerning the cost of prescription drugs….our 17 year old cat didn’t tolerate the phenobarbitol and is on diazepam, the generic for valium. The monthly cost is $8.00 (every 12 hours she gets 1/4 of a 2 mg people pill from Target). More than 3 months now and she’s back to her old routines…We had to see 3 vets before anything helped, so hang in there, everyone…..

  63. Dale J | June 5, 2007 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Concerning phenobarbitol. We pay $15.80 per month for 30 tablets from the vet. We give them in quarters - so a pill lasts 2 days. I tried cutting them with a knife & discovered the pill cutters (which use a razor blade) are more effective. We were told not to miss a dosage or to try to quit giving it to her as that would cause seizures. We do have to go for a blood test every 6 months which is about $50 I think.

  64. Wendy | June 5, 2007 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    It’s so frustrating not knowing what is causing so many cats to have seizures! It could be brain tumors, food related, epilepsy, who knows? One thing that blows me away is that the VETS don’t know either! Unfortunate update on Merlin…had to let him go last week. He had a seizure that didn’t end. After witnessing about 2 minutes of non-stop seizing we wrapped him in a towel, put him in his carrier (important to do that) and rushed him to the vet which is about 10 minutes away. The seizure continued, it was horrible and he was screeching. They had to give him laughing gas and anesthesia to stop it. The vet spent about half an hour checking him (we were not allowed to see him during this time which was probably a good thing). When she came out, not good news. Said that if he was her 15-yr. old cat that she would not put him through that again. It was torture saying goodbye to our baby but the torture he was going through was much worse. We got to enter the room and say goodbye but since he was still under anesthesia, he was alaready unconcious. The vet said that for every witnessed seizure a cat has, there are probably 2-3 that are not witnessed. The holistic drops I started giving him seemed to work for a couple of days but obviously did not help in our case. I’m not trying to bum anyone out, I know he’s in a wonderful happy place now with all my other pets who have gone before…just thought this might help someone who may experience a similar situation. I’ll tell you one thing though, I will consider making my own cat food for my other cat from now on.

  65. Gail | June 6, 2007 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Justin - thank you so much for this site/blog. Like others here I was googling and found your site.
    Our story - Munchkin is 20 years old living out the winter of her life with my husband and I - between this past sunday and monday, in a 14 hour time frame she had 4 seizures - Tuesday nothing, that I witnessed, until 10:30 pm at which point she had one every 20 mins until 3:30 this morn. I was up with her all night to comfort her and be there with her afterwards. We have an appt today at 3:30.
    Her episodes are different from what most have posted - it starts with her raising her head like she hears something, then her head trembles slightly (like Katherine Hepburn), then she stands up and starts circling like she is chasing her tail and twitching and tinkles alittle. Then she falls on her side and convulses some more. When it subsides she is panting like a dog (body overheating?) and then lays down limp and falls asleep. Last night after several of the episodes she started crying, when I picked her up she would stop immediately. So instead, for the rest of the night, I picked her up immediately once she stopped convulsing and there was no more crying.
    This morn she has 3 already - 2 back to back and one 40 min after the last - she is sleeping right now.
    A little more background to help those in the future - llast year we had two different issues - the first was out of the blue she started crying for no “apparent’ reason at various times of the day - when we would go to her, talk to her, touch her, pick her up - whichever - she would stop in mid cry - took her to the vet - they called it senility, no meds - it comes and goes. It’s been gone for a coupld months until the seizures. Issue 2 - after aseveral days of rain and cold she lost use of her hind legs and was dragging herself around. If she was put upright she could walk with the help of a wall or my hand on her hip. Vet gave her steroids and she was able to stand and walk on her own.
    I am aware of the inevitable and broke down in hysterics last night thinking about it. I lost another loved one several years ago and thought the tears would never stop.
    Justin and everyone who has posted - thank you again for posting and sharing. Sorry about the long post.

  66. Justin | June 6, 2007 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    @Gail: With that many seizures (more than one in a short time span, actually), according to what I’ve been told, you should go to an ER as soon as possible, if you have one near you. Glad you get in for an appointment today, though — best of luck.

  67. margo | June 7, 2007 at 2:38 am | Permalink

    Sorry Wendy…that’s the hardest, but sometimes the kindest thing you can do your animals…when they’re not enjoying life anymore, but just dragging through one day after another, being miserable…..that’s not fun for them….and you’re right, the cause is often never known….and finding the cause itself is stressful, and sometimes life-threatening, especially for the older cat. All we can do is to try to keep them comfortable……..

  68. Casey | October 4, 2007 at 5:54 am | Permalink

    My one year old cat just had his first seizure tonight. Included all the usual symptoms, including urination and defecation. Since first onset, he has had at least 3 or 4 seizures. I have been waiting out the night with him to take him to the vet first thing in the morning. My question is: most of the cats mentioned here are older. Should I be concerned that my cat is only one year old and is already having seizures? It should be noted that he has already been treated for a serious bronchial infection and acute anxiety. Some words of comfort or advice would go a long way here….

  69. Natalie | October 9, 2007 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    I am as alarmed as Casey. My cat, Mason, is only 9 months old and he has had 2 seizures so far. One night I woke up to him in a frozen state and excessively panting. When I cradled him he seemed to snap out of it. Last night he had a much more severe seizure and I awoke to find him in the corner, again excessively panting, but this time surrounded by vomit and feces. I FLIPPED out and rushed him to the emergency vet. They said they would have to do extensive blood work and a MRI to figure out what exactly is causing the seizures….adding up to a $800 vet bill. I don’t have that kind of $$$ and I am at a loss as to what I should do.

  70. Lindy | October 25, 2007 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    My kitty, Camilla, is 7 years old, fat(17 lbs)long haired, and very affectionate. She is averaging one seizure a day. Her sister from t he same litter, Lolita, who is thin, short-haired and wacky active, shares the same diet, and does not have seizures. they both violently, throw up hairballs, in which I have tried to alter their diet to control. Four years ago, Camilla was similar in many ways to her sister and completely healthy. When our home caught on fire, she was trapped for a time, then rescued by firemen, who brought her out panting and bleeding from the mouth. She was treated and released with a clean bill of health by our vet. It was afterward, she began to gain weight, and a year afterward, her seizures began, intermittently. Because we owed the vet a lot from her past bill, I couldn’t get them to agree to do the tests without my paying a percentage of it. All I can do is comfort her through them. I wondered, can I get phenobarb for seizures for my kitty without the vet doing the tests?

  71. Joshua | November 5, 2007 at 3:23 am | Permalink

    Hey all, I’ve been googling away on finding answers to these seizures and was lucky enough to stumble upon this site. Our cat Yasu, I believe he’s a red point siamese, has been having seizures for about a year now. He only has the seizures when he’s sleeping. And then out of the blue, BAM, he’ll flip around, twist, and tense up right out of his sleep. He is just over 1 1/2 old. Like many here, I went to numerous vets with no luck. The seizures started out very small (quick, light twist) but have progressively grown worse (rolling, and twisitng for minutes on end, and then urinating on himself). The first vet I mentioned it to, when the seizures first started, didn’t know his head from his you know what, and told me he was probably having dreams. After I was told that, I went searching for a vet that could provide some real help and not just a guess. The second vet did a couple of blood tests, and everything came back clear, unfortunately these vets don’t tell you the bill until after the tests are done so I ended up paying over $300 for two or three quick tests. Yasu was not a happy cat after the tests, and I felt jipped out of a fair amount of money. Things went on for awhile, and the seizures were the same, again, just a quick. light turn, he was dazed for just a little while and then he would be fine. It wasn’t a horrific sight, it would only last a few seconds and then it was over. As time went on though the seizures began lasting longer. My wife and I then decided to take him to yet another vet to hopefully find an answer. Once we arrived, we were talked down to, and treated like we didn’t know what we were talking about. Being the owners and seeing what our cat had gone through all these months, it was quite irritating to have this vet be so condescending towards us. He ran a blood test and called us the next day saying that our cat had the FIP virus and we should think about putting him down. We were quite devastated, but sure as heck did not want to deal with this vet again. We opted to try one more vet, who looked him over and assured us he did not have FIP. That was a relief, but he was still having seizures and they were getting worse. The new vet told us she would do some research on the seizures, especially since they were only occuring when he slept. When she got back to us, she said it looked as though it was some sort of sleeping disorder. Well that was somewhat comforting, but we were still skeptical. Just a note, none of the vets had prescribed us anything for the seizures yet. It was a week or two after I had talked to our most recent vet that Yasu had a few more serious seizures. I contacted the vet, and told her I would really appreciate getting some sort of medication to help alleviate the seizures, she said she would order it for me. Well a few weeks later and still no medication. My wife and I were also in the process of moving so everything was quite hectic. I then called the vet again and asked if she had ordered the meds. Her assistant told me that they were still waiting on the order. That’s when I lost my cool and told them I had been waiting several weeks and asked why the hell was it so difficult to get these meds, and that I needed them ASAP because of seizures were becoming worse. By this time, Yasu was having seizures more frequently, they were lasting much longer, they were becoming more violent, and he was starting to urinate on himself during the episodes. In anycase, the assistant then asked if I had a local pharmacy and I told them Walgreens, and they got the meds for me that day! Unbelievable. I’m more than certain they were trying to order them from somewhere so they could get a commission on the sale of the prescription. Who knows. The vet prescribed Clonazepam. We started Yasu on the medicine immediately. That was in August. We were giving him a half a pill in the morning and the other half in the evening. The drug seemed to be working up until about two weeks ago. He’s back to having his seizures again, and it’s horrible to see him go through these episodes. I’m going to line up an appointment for him tomorrow (Monday 11/05/2007) and see what the vet says. My wife and I are at wits end at the moment, and like so many others here, are hesitant to pay thousands of dollars for an MRI or other pricey tests and find out that either they couldn’t find anything, or that it is a brain tumor that could costs thousands more. We love our little Yasu so much, but might have to allow him to go to a better place due to the consistency and severity of the seizures. I’m glad I happened upon this site tonight. My wife and I have been praying that God gives us the ability to do what is right for Yasu. It’s not easy, and even while I write this the tears begin welling up. I apologize for the lengthiness of this post, I just hope it will provide some information to anyone else who is in a similar situation. These seizures in cats seems to be a growing problem, and hopefully more research will be conducted to find out what exactly is the root cause. Thanks to everyone for all their posts!

  72. Scott Scotten | November 6, 2007 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    My little buddy Rat (Named him that when
    he was born because he was a runt of the litter and looked like a baby rat) was
    itching his ears. I took him to the Vet
    to have him look at his ears. He said he
    had ear mites. He prescribed Pfizer’s
    Mita-Clear for treatment. He put some in
    the ear and said I needed to do that
    weekly. We got home and within one
    hour, Rat had a seizure. I thought he
    was ok and when I got back from supper
    he had another one. I took him to 24-
    hour clinic where he had another
    seizure right in the lab. The doctor
    gave him valium so he could rest that
    night. The next day, he was not himself.
    He had no balance, ran into walls like
    he could not see, he could barely walk.
    I had to force his head into his food
    and water bowl for him to find them,
    and he lost control of being able to
    go to the kitty litter. Later that night
    he went into the spare bedroom (which
    he never goes into) and slept. I moved
    him into the bedroom with me that night
    and layed him on a bed I made for him.
    The next morning he was very weak and
    was just barely breathing. I again took
    him to the 24-hour clinic. I was told
    that what was probably best for him
    was to put him down. I cried like a
    big old 52 year-old baby. I buried him
    in my backyard with all his toys. I
    am not sure that the Mita-Clear
    induced the seizure or not, but I
    would be leary of that product because
    Rat was fine until that was put into his

  73. Cheryl Wrona | November 7, 2007 at 5:54 am | Permalink

    Vacines could be causing a lot of these. I have read enough books and beleive they could be a possible cause. Even the crud in the pet food could possibly cause seizures.
    Books-Foods Pets Die for, Stop the Shots, Dr. Pitcairn’s Natural Health for Dogs and Cats, there’s many other books.
    Please get active in your pets health. Try a holistic-homeopathic vet. Never underestimate a blood test, especially a full blood panel. Learn what all the stuff is on that panel. Many vets do not use most of the info.

  74. Evie | November 9, 2007 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    I am so glad I found this website! Our 14 year old cat Oliver had a seizure two weeks ago in the middle of the night. Like a lot of the stories posted here, it sounded like he jumped off the bed. At first, we thought the cats were wrestling, but when it didnt stop we immediately turned on the light. Oliver was laying on his side, and his body was twitching. He didn’t pee or anything, but he did drool. After it passed he laid there for a minute and then got up and was walking around. He looked slightly bewildered, but was otherwise fine. We rushed him to the emergency vet and they did some blood tests. The vet doctor seemed like he was grasping for some explanation, but esentially said that Oliver is healthy and that we should take him to our regular vet. Our vet looked at the results of the blood tests and said the same thing, Oliver’s liver and kidney function is fine. He gave him a shot of antibiotics and steriods and sent him home. He has been perfectly normal since then, but I am worried that it’ll happen again. I love my cat, but like someone who posted earlier said, I am not dropping over $1000 for cat scans and MRIs. It’s reassuring to know that this has happened to other people, but frightening that there doesnt seem to be a definitive answer.

  75. Susan | November 11, 2007 at 5:06 am | Permalink

    My 18 year old cat Louie had his first seizure tonight and it was quite scary. It lasted about 2 minutes and then he staggered around and threw up. Later he was better and ate twice and used the littler box. He is old and frail and if his time is near I want it to be here and not at the vets who he hates.

  76. catherine | November 13, 2007 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    My heart goes out to all of you. My cat, Lucky - 5 1/2 years old - came to our backdoor as a stray kitten - had his first seizure this past summer. My 13 year old daughter was the only one to witness it then and she was very scared. We took Lucky to the vet that day and learned several helpful things:

    1) I asked the vet why the outer edges of Lucky’s ears (white fur) were appearing so red at that point. The vet said that’s a common symptom following a seizure (I forgot what the medical reason for it is). This info came in handy today when I arrived home to see Lucky acting dis-oriented, and the outer edges of his ears were red again. So, I believe he had a seizure today when no one was home to witness it.

    2) The vet also said that the reasons for seizures are basically unknown, and that if he had 100 cat owners come in, each willing to spend $2000 in testing for their cat, he might be able to determine the cause for 10 of them, if he was lucky.

    The best we can do is give them our love.

  77. Danielle | November 22, 2007 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    hello, im sorry to hear about all your storys, my lil man micky had his first seizure today and i was hysterical, i was sat outside and heard him cry i ran into the kitchen to find him on his side frothing at the mouth culvulting, firstly i thought he was chocking so i rubbed his neck to help him.. it lasted about 1 min.. i was crying and just telling him not to die, i live on a property and my friend had the car so i had no means of getting to a vet, after my muffled and hysterical phonecall to my friend she was soon home.. i took micky to the vet where he had a check up and all his vital signs were normal and healthy, i was offered a blood test at $110 but had to be paid up front so im booking him in next week. my cat is like my child.. the vet said this is common in cats and is unexplained just to moniter him.. he likes to eat moths and last night i sprayed some with insect spray thinking they would die first.. i dont know if he got hold of one but this might be the reason..i have never been so scared and so stressed all day, but reading your stories has helped me alot to know ts more common than i thought and im not the only one going thru it, thankyou.. i hope all ur babies are well and i wish you the best..

  78. Mark Allen | November 23, 2007 at 6:25 am | Permalink

    Isadore, our 2.5 yr old mixed breed male from the shelter just experienced his first seizure. These comments have been quite helpful and consoling. Ironically I’m a physician and before that I worked on a workfloor with 75 or so severely retarded adults, about ten who had to wear helmets because of frequent seizures. Conservatively speaking, I’ve seen and attended to probably 200 seizures, but never, I mean never have I seen anything like what Isadore went through. It was short, 2-3 minutes, but far and away the most violent seizure I’ve ever witnessed.

    So I’m in the immediate freak out/learning stage and I have a question. Has anyone here taken their cat to a specialized neurologist vet?

  79. Mark Allen | November 23, 2007 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    A follow-up question for the science geeks. The serum acetylcholinestease assay: are they looking for baseline abnormalities in parasympathetic tone? Or perhaps are they looking for an indication of something toxic, functioning like sarin, that my kitty may have gotten into, competitively inhibiting the post-synaptic receptors, causing ACh to be continuously dumped into the synapse triggering the increased feedback-loop release of acetylcholinestease that the vet could use as a marker for the presence of said toxin?

    Sorry for the technical gobbledygook, but I’m confused. All thoughts much appreciated.

  80. Mark Allen | November 23, 2007 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    Sorry, I made a mistake. The nerve gas Sarin inactivates acetylcholinesterase, the enzyme that’s supposed to break down acetylcholine, and was an inappropriate example. Without functioning acetylcholinesterase, acetylcholine builds up in the synapse causing constant stimulation of the muscles (resulting in generalized seizure), the central nervous system and the glands. The end result is basically the same in that there’s an inappropriate super-excess of acetylcholine in the synapses.

    Fellow geeks - my question still stands: anyone know what vets are searching for with the serum acetylcholinesterase assay?

  81. amanda | November 23, 2007 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    I am so concerened for my cat, she is 17 and been so faithful but over the last three months i have witnessed her having what i think is either seizures or a stroke not really sure of the difference in symptoms, the first one she seemed lifeless for about ten minutes and i actually thought she had died but the last two she acts as if she is drunk and then with in five minutes she is eating and acting as normal again, can anyone tell me what they think is wrong with her. I know most people will think its only a cat but im not ready to loose her and i know age isnt on her side but i want to do my best for her as she has been an excellent pet all round

  82. Jack | November 24, 2007 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    We have two cats that have seizures periodically. They started for one about a month after they started for the first. There was no clear pattern, but I suspected food because they seemed to happen right after they ate. Anyway, I hadn’t fed them Friskies Shredded for quite a while and then I bought a lot of it and they ate it almost exclusively over a few days and one of the cats had 5 seizures in 3 days, whereas she normally only had one every few weeks. We completely stopped feeding them that food and the seizures have almost completely stopped. We attribute the occasional ones that they do have to the fact that the neighbors feed that food to their cats and our cats sneak in there for some occasionally.

    The vet said the same things that the vets in the other posts did and that food as a cause was pretty much unheard of and impossible, but I’m convinced it’s something in that food. That same cat had a seizure yesterday immediately after beginning to eat some Friskies Prime Filets Beef. I saw the whole thing. She lapped up the juice for about 15 seconds, then started looking around like she heard something that worried her. She went into the other room and flattened herself against the floor and then slowly curled up and had the usual horrible seizure. I think there’s a chemical in that food and in probably many other brands that builds up the cats’ systems gradually and then begins to cause the seizures. We all know what horrible things the food companies put in our food to save a few cents. Who knows what they put in pet food.

  83. Danielle | November 26, 2007 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    my lil man micky had another seizure today.. its his 2nd and only 6 days apart, i was alot calmer today it only lasted about 15-30 seconds and only took him 2 or 3 mins to snap out of it, i rang the vet and she said they will need to do blood test but at this time there is no need for urgent attention as they are days apart not hours and are only brief.. today i actually witnessd the whole thing unfold.. he was coughing up a furball as he usually does as soon as he had brought it up he went straight into a seizure, now i dont know wether this is because he had lack of oxygen to the brain or wether the stress has caused his to seizure, we have recently moved interstate and now have a dog wich he is unfamiliar with.. i hope they they can find out the problem.. all we can do is hope.. wising you all the best.. xxRE: AMANDA.. i know how u feel, my cat is still young but i dont think ill ever be ready to let him go.. people think they are only animals but to me they are so much more.. i hope your cat will be ok :)

  84. Mark Allen | November 27, 2007 at 7:31 am | Permalink

    Has anyone here ever heard of a young, healthy cat having one isolated seizure, then going on to live a normal seizure-free existence, passing away after a normal lifespan from something else, something unrelated to the seizure?

    Danielle, is your intuition that the hairball thing brought on the seizure? We are trying to discover things that seem to precipitate seizures in seizure prone kitties so we can take them out of her immediate environs, so to speak. If that’s even possible. I’ll hold a good thought for your sweetie.

    Regarding Isidore, he hasn’t had any other seizures since his first one on Thanksgiving eve (see post #78). The first round of labs came back normal. They were traditional blood electrolytes and chemistries, blood analysis (enough Red Blood Cells, White Blood Cells, Platelets) serology for toxoplasmosis and coccidiomycosis and the feline immunology and cancer stuff, e.g. FIV, FIP, leukemia, lymphoma.

    The vet feels it prudent to wait and see what if anything happens next. It drives me nuts to wait. What do y’all think? Izzy’s young and healthy, lean and strong mixed breed whose been well cared for since day zero. Odds are that this is not primary epilepsy (from what I can derive from my research on the net). That said, it was caused (logically) by something else. But what? Isn’t it in Isidore’s best interest to uncover the cause now versus waiting for another seizure?

    What do y’all think? I’m strung out and I know you folks are as well, but I’m begging for your opinions. Any and all will be much appreciated.

    Take Care,

  85. Mark Allen | November 27, 2007 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    The other thing is that in the world of medicine, among treatable things, I’ve never seen something become easier to treat as time passes.

    We harp on people to secure an early personal diagnosis for those things we can screen for. Shouldn’t the same logic apply? I’m not exactly sure what I’m waiting for. The tumor to get bigger? I’m sorry: I’m tired and frustrated. And I trust my vet - he’s definitely no idiot. Does all this just sound like my stuff interfering with my ojectivity?


  86. Danielle | December 5, 2007 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    MARK, yes i am thinking it might have a cause as i have isolated my cat from the rest of the house and have been putting sardine oil over his dinner to loosen the furballs and wash him weekly so he isnt feeling dirty and the need to clean himself ad he hasnt had another seizure that i am aware of, but there is no indication in his room that there has been ie:vomit.but i am trying to eliminate all causes as my vet wants an upfront fee before she does blood testin and i just cant afford it right now.but we have now just in the past 10 mins encountered another problem, our dog just had a mild fit and dazed and eyes flashing so to speak.. so now my thoughts lead to something around the household, we live on a large property so narrowing it down is going to be tuff, but my cat was perfectly healthy and never had a problem before moving here.. im so confused and warn out.. i try to watch him as much as i can :( mark i really hope ur kitty is ok best wishes xxxx

  87. Jennifer | December 8, 2007 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Hello Danielle. Very sorry to hear about your little cat. My cat Peanut had a seizure about 4 hours ago. We were playing with his feather and he started walking funny, fell over flexing all 4 legs, shaking VERY badly, drooling and he ended up going potty on the car ride there. That terrified me because i know animals go to the bathroom before they pass away. At least my 2 year old did who passed from Kidney failure a year ago.

    The doctor told me that it wasn’t serious. I almost laughed because it was the most serious situation i’ve been in, besides taking my little cat to the vet to find out he had Kidney Failure from the Pet Food Recall.

    Anyways, the doctor said even if they have seizures every 3 months it’s not considered serious. The only time it’s serious is if they are “clustered” .. which means they have their 2nd seizure before the 1st one is finished. Another time it’s considered serious is when the cats seizure lasts for several minutes.

    We had test done on him. The Feline LUEK. test came back negative =) I’ll have the other test results on monday. Hopefully it’s nothing serious and it wont happen again. I’ll find a way but i don’t have the money to have surgery done. My 7 indoor cats are my world so i’ll find a way =)

    I hope some of this info helped you and whoever else checks out this website. Peanut is sleeping right now. He got up for a sec. to drink some water but he didn’t eat anything, which is normal. Now he’s laying back down in his kitty condo, resting. I’ll make sure to keep an eye on him the rest of the weekend. I don’t want anything to happen while i’m gone!

    Take care Danielle.

    - Jennifer

  88. Jennifer | December 8, 2007 at 3:21 pm | Permalink


    I forgot to say that my Peanut is 6 months old. Too young for seizures. Also, there is nothing around my house he could of gotten into. I have 7 other indoor cats so i try and keep everything picked up the best i can! =)

    The only thing he MIGHT have gotten into would be the fake snow we had out for decoration. It says on the back KEEP AWAY FROM ANIMALS. Well i did but the can dropped on the floor splashing a little on the floor .. of course i had 4 cats sniffing it before i could get it cleaned up. Not sure if this had anything to do with it though.

    I’m hoping he doesn’t have a heart problem because like i said, it happened as he was playing pretty hard.

    Does anyone know if this could be the problem?

    Thank you,

  89. Jennifer | December 8, 2007 at 3:34 pm | Permalink


    Dear all who read,
    Please do not put your babies to sleep because they are having seizures every few months/weeks, ect. It’s a proven fact that cats DO NOT feel their seizure. They just feel a little dazed afterwards .. hey, who doesn’t? ;-) So, they are not in pain like most people think!! Good news huh? I thought so when i found out. =)

    Plus, you never know when you are going to come across a cure. My 2 year old guy October passed away last year from Kidney Failure because of the Pet Food Recall and i found out one thing i could of done. It doesn’t feel too good to know that BUT he WAS in a lot of pain then and the best thing to do was put him to sleep. I had no choice at the time, he was on “life support” and going fast.

    Take care everyone!!

    [Can i get a little feedback on my cats seizures? I'm hoping there will be nomore. He's a very healthy 6 month old mixed indoor cat. His parents, brother and sister are still here and healthy as can be!]

  90. Jane | December 11, 2007 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Hello All, I came to this website to help ease my pain through understanding. I have for the past several years enjoyed a multi cat household. This past Sunday, 12/9/07, we were taking a break from Christmas light hanging! my senior man of the house Nicci who was due to celebrate his 8th birthday on Dec. 18th jumped up on the bar to explore some relocated boxes (he had already been up there and I was mentioning to my boyfriend it was an unstable perch) he wobbled a bit and I think he growled. His back legs split apart like he slipped on something and by the time I stood up to grap him his front leg twisted towards his backin almost a deformed position, I think his chest was on the counter as he struggled to right himself. He then fell to his side and shook/twitched violently. It was as if someone had grapped him twisted him and then just shook him. I don’t really know how long this event was, I was in shock and stood there helpless as I have never seen anything so horrific. I was screaming for help from my boyfriend, “help, what is happening” is all I could muster. Well, either it happened too fast in real time or I screwed up, Nicci fell off the counter (I tried to catch him but he slipped through my hands), about 3 ft. and laid motionless on the floor. I knelt beside him crying not to die, he let out 2 low growls then 2-3 struggled labored breaths and he was gone. This was a apparently healthy happy cat whom since dawn had been out and about with no sign of illness. Needless to say I have relived that horrifing event over and over and looking for answers. This site has allowed me to know this is alomst a common and frustrating occurance and I am not alone. Good Luck to All with your kitties and I understand what you are facing.

  91. Emily | December 12, 2007 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    Hey everybody,

    The fact that people are still commenting on this post almost two years later is really telling - these seizures are scary, all-too common occurrences and I wish there was more public education for cat owners. My girl Luna, who is about four years old, has had them for two years now. She is on daily phenobarbital and now only seizes when she has managed to spit out a pill or has experienced a lot of stress (like if another cat gets in the house).

    I just wanted to say buck up, your kitties could be fine even with recurring seizures. And I’m not a salesperson or anything, but honestly the only thing that has worked to totally remove the pee smell after a seizure is this product called “Anti Icky Poo”. We buy it online and it has been a miracle. She even seized on our brand new mattress once - ugh - and after soaking it really well in Anti Icky Poo and letting it air out for two weeks, I could put my face right in the spot and not smell it.

    i’ve heard of some pet owners putting their pets to sleep over the urination that happens during seizures. This is NOT NECESSARY. Try this stuff, it works! The other enzyme cleaners haven’t for us.

    Good luck everyone. Hugs to the kitties.

  92. Justin | December 13, 2007 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    It really is amazing that this post continues to garner comments — nearly 100 now. My heart goes out to everyone affected. Macy has been well since a cluster of seizures in February and we put her back on Phenobarbital. For a couple months she was a little lazy and sleepy but after they adjusted her dose she’s been back her normal self.

  93. Danielle | December 14, 2007 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    jennifer, hello.. i know how horrific it is to witness the seizures, i was exactly like you with mickys first one.. we have been trying to discover the problem, today my friends boyfriend cleaned our water system to find a dead bird in there that was rotting.. people we have to look at every angle i have been giving micky bottled water and bathing him, it is also a known fact that brown ticks can cause seizures so check for ticks.. it could be as little as the water or as harsh as a heart problem, but something causes them just like in humans.. we also have to remember the size difference, if we have an allergic reaction to something we get pretty sick, in an animal could be so much worse.. it could be an allergy to something as simple as changing biskits..micky has only had 2 to date, ever since i changed his water and stoped the fly spray in the house, i havent heard a peep he is a very healthy and loved cat.. sometimes it can be heart breaking and seem to hard, just keep trying and dont give up, if and when a second one occurs just be there to hold him, not tight, cats will not swallow their tounges, and as stated in a message above they do not feel any pain and dont remember what has happened and if you are stressed by the sezuire your kitty will relate to this and panic.. im far from a vet but my cat seems to be doing fine.. also jennifer i know u dont want to leave ur cat alone but if ur cat is going to have one it wont matter if you are there or not, its nice to comfort them after but again they will not remember, try be strong for your kitty and go on as ur normal day.. just cherish the time we have with our loved lil animals and show them as much love and affection you can. if it wasnt for this site i would proberly still be a bit of a mess.. ive had animals all my life and never seen anything like it… be strong and love to all kittys :)

  94. Danielle | December 14, 2007 at 7:45 am | Permalink

    JANE.. i am so sorry for your loss.. it breaks my heart.. im sure you gave nicci the best possible life he could have wished for.. and im sure he is happy where he is now. my strength and love to you.

  95. Debra | December 19, 2007 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Hi all,
    My husband and I have 9 cats all adopted from shelters and rescued. We adopted Kelby in April of this year. He is a BLIND 2 year old Blk/White Tuxedo. We have NO medical history as he was owner surrendered and would have been killed if we had not adopted him or not taken by a rescue group. Anyway, he was fine until Saturday Dec 15. He had a petite mal. Sunday he had a grand mal. Took him to the vet on Monday. All his blood work is normal. Also took him to my alternative vet. Got home. BEFORE I could give him ANY medication he had another seizure. I promptly gave him 2cc of Phenobarbital. NO seizure yesterday but he had another one this morning. How long does it take for the Phenobarbital to become effective. My vet would like to do a full complex blood work up and possibly an MRI. What can we do to help this precious little boy. Having a seizur eis frightening for them but to be blind and have onemust be even more frightening for him.
    Any comments or help would be gratefully appreciated.


  96. Justin | December 19, 2007 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    @Debra: From what our vet has told us, it takes up to two weeks for phenobarb to stabilize in the bloodstream and to be effective.

  97. Debra | December 19, 2007 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    ohh ok.. thank you Justin. Have you found it to be helpful to your cat?


  98. Justin | December 19, 2007 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    @Debra: Yes. Macy last had four seizures in an evening back in February after being off meds for about six months, but since going back on, she hasn’t had any. It’s always worked well, but twice now we’ve backed her off of it after a year with no seizures. I think at this point, we’ll just keep her on it from here on out.

  99. Debra | December 19, 2007 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    THanks Justin,
    My vet just called and said that it takes a full 4-5 days for the phenobarbital to become really effective. I am keeping a seizure log and so is she. kelby seems to bounce back rather quickly so maybe the meds are starting to help a little. I feel like I am grasping at straws..looking for any sign of hope. Having seizures is one thing but on top of that he is blind.. and was thrown away by the previous people. He has come a long way since we adopted him in April. He is our fur son and we adore him….I just wish I knew SOMETHING.


  100. Kay | December 19, 2007 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Cheryl, please turn the cat to the humane society, they have vets and they will care for her and get her a home; please don’t play doctor with valium. Cats are highly toxic and can die from certain human pills. The cat MUST see a vet, asap, it’s no joke.
    Re: these seziures - if any of your cats have two or more isolated seizures take them to a vet IMMEDIATELY it’s not a question of having cash or not you MUST
    Do a blood test, CBS and test for FELV
    It’s good to do an MRI if you can find an affordable one to check a tumor - often time a cause of this…I have also heard of cats who get sezures from toxicity -
    is your rug dirty? Is she licking it daily? Do you clean your floors with toxic cleaners rather than the lemon once from Whole Foods? Do you feed your cat food that has either gluten, bi products or corn? Is your cat eating mostly dry?
    NO cat should be eating any of the three above, those are fillers, that allow companies to sell less meat in the food and more fillers to bind the little meat…they squeeze in some taurine so they can say they put it in - all this food is designed to keep vets in bussiness. Why do you think vets push Science Diet so much? They get paid to push that. Read the label - bi products, gluten, ask them if those are good for your cat, any vet with a heart will say no.
    If your cats are having toxic seizures, they may refuse food or not eat much, have a little blockage around the pee pee, ( painfull so please do go to a vet) and also this mainly happens in male kitties, not sure why…I’m a doctor’s daughter…my kitty also has the same seizures. We get the blood test back this week…

  101. Kay | December 19, 2007 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    PS: get a CBC blood differential I have no clue why I wrote CBS hehe I’m watching TV

  102. Kay | December 19, 2007 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    I also want to post an alternative for those with little money
    DO NOT PLAY DOCTOR - go to a vet and get a blood test, when you know what the problem is go to and see if anything there on pet alive is right for you.
    Also pet meds delivers almost all medicine your vet supplies

  103. judith harik | December 20, 2007 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    I have a 7 months old stray kitten with seizures that are probably related to wobbling and falling. This is symptom of feline dystemper that was probably transferred from the mother cat who had it, to the kitten who somehow survived. At any rate - all siezure symptoms are as above and we are trying to treat the symptoms as there is o cure for the problem - by using Tolfedine a muscle/skeltal analgesic for the wobbling and prednisone. I tried valium and had avery negative reaction, almost as bad as the seizures. My aim is to take care of this poor kitty and try to alleivate his symptoms. I do not think the prognosis is good - as taking prednisone for a lifetime can’t be great. But my feeling is that he somehow wandered or wobbled onto our property and so shall he be sheltered. To all who are as upset as I am over this condition,,, don’t forget — the cast does NOT feel pain when having a seizure — we are the ones that do!!


  104. Debra | December 20, 2007 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Kelby justhad another seizure. H eis still taking the 2cc Phenobarb 2x day. It’s only been since Monday. I was hoping to see a little improvement… heart is breaking for my fur son.


  105. Rose Montagu | December 27, 2007 at 6:10 am | Permalink

    Hi,my lovely 15?y/old persian,Tiffany, had her 2nd seizure last Sunday. The last one was on april 25th. She may have had more but not in front of us. Well, after the recent one the poor thing seems to have trouble with her sight- lack of it now. It’s really sad to see and I know Tiffany is wondering what the hell happened.Will be taking her to the vets.Poor girl now walks into the walls and cannot jump off the sofa as she cannot see the floor.
    My heart goes out to all the young cats that are enduring these terrible seizures at least Tiffany has had a great life for approx 15 years or more.

  106. Debra | December 28, 2007 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Hi Rose. How is Tiffany doing?
    Our Kelby was born blind and in the past 2 weeks has had a seizure almost every day. He is now taking 2cc Phenobarbital 2x day. His seizures only seem to occur wheile he is asleep. I did some digging on the internet and I am now wondering if he doesn’t have a sleeping disorder of some kind. I found an article and emailed it to my vet. He goes back to the vet on the 7th for alevels check and full blood work up.
    If anyone has a blind cat with seizures while they are asleep PLESAE let me know.


  107. Rose Montagu | December 29, 2007 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Hi Deb,
    Tiffany is not good.Very dissorientated.Seems more frail than before.Eating ok and drinking just her spirit is gone as she cannot see.Will only sleep on the floor now.Won’t sit up wih you on the sofa or the bed if you are not there.She looks so “lost”.I have just read that there is sometimes temporary blindness after seizures but his one happenned on the 24th and she is still blind.I wonder how long temporary blindness goes for?
    Deb, goodluck with the vet on the 7th.
    It is so sad to see them having a seizure as you feel helpless.
    Our thoughts to beautiful Kelby!

  108. Debra | December 31, 2007 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Oh Rose,
    I am so sorry that your Tiffany is not doing well. I am sure she is terrified to move around.
    Is she still having seizures? Is she on Phenobaribital yet? Has thevet said if the blindness is temporary?
    Kelby has nightly seizures. The phenobarb doesn’t seem to be helping much as the seizures still come every night. I have spoken with my vet about the possibility of this being a sleep disorder and when he goes into a deep REM sleep the btrain relaxes and he starts to seize.. WHY? I have no idea. We adopte dhim April and these just started 2 weeks ago. He is already blind (from birth) add a seizure on top of that.. it makes it so very hard for him.. and us.

    Please know that I am praying for your Tifany.. please come back and post again.. sometimes I feel like I am on that life raft alone.. it is nice to know others know what you are going thru.


  109. Rose Montagu | January 1, 2008 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    Hi Deb,
    Tiffany is not good. Ihave just patted her off to sleep on the floor on a blanket and wondering whether I should have Tiffany put to sleep.I am trying so hard to put how I feel aside as Tiffany is the one suffering.After all these years of sight to just go black-poor thing.Tiffany has not had anymore seizures.Spoke to the vet and not a lot to do for Tiff due to age and I understand( money is not abundant either).
    Your poor little Kelby.Has the Vet suggested a reason for the seizures? Give him a cuddle for me.At least he has youth on his side.
    Thank you for your prayers for Tiffany. I am not religious but I do believe in prayer.I will say a prayer for Kelby.
    Thoughts are with you Deb - truly,
    Rose :).

  110. Linda | January 1, 2008 at 11:52 am | Permalink


    I am so sorry to hear about your kitty. I pray for Tiffany and the other cats that are going thru this. It is such a hard thing to deal with.

    My kitty is 12 years old and has had 3 seizures in the last 3 nights. I located a few web sites that offer some information:

    I have an appointment at the “Veterinary Neurological Center” in Phoenix on Thrusday. Feline Neurological doctors are somewhat rare. I will share what information I can obtain after the appointment.

  111. Debra | January 1, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Ohh Rose,
    Oh honey I am so sory. Has she had any more seizures? Has your vet said if the blindness is temporary or permanent? Is she taking Phenobarbital? I wish we lived closer. I’d come over and you could get some rest. I am in Virginia. Does Tiffany get up and around at all?

    Plesae let me know what happens. I Am here if you need me.


  112. Debra | January 1, 2008 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Ohh Linda that would be great if you could share whatever info you learn! Kelby has an appt on the 8th for a levels check to determine if the phenobarbital is effective. Also a complex blood work up. Depending on those results he may have a liver shunt test.
    I am so sorry your fur child is going thru this too. BUT I am glad that I found this site… at least we can all share what w eknow..maybe help shed light on what our fur children are going thru and support each other.
    Kelby only seems to have his seizures when he is asleep. I Have asked my vet about the possibility of him having a sleep disorder.
    Are there any vet neurological centers on the east coast? I Am in Virginia.

    Please keep us posted and know that you are in my thoughts and prayers.


  113. Linda | January 1, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    I feel so bad for Tiffany and Rose. I can only hope for the best.

    I located the following infomation that may help:
    Cornell Feline Health Center - College of Veterinary Medicine, Cornell University (Phone # 607-253-3414) May have info on local vets. (Sorry closed today so I could not confirm) -
    They mentioned a vet in Fairfax, VA. Maybe you could contact her for more info.

    I found the following information at this site (last entry)

    Seizures are not as common in cats as they are in dogs and there seem to be fewer common inciting causes. Primary epilepsy (basically seizures that can’t be explained for any other reason) may occur in cats, especially pure-bred cats. Feline infectious peritonitis causes seizures and feline immunodeficiency virus and feline leukemia virus probably do, too. Toxoplasmosis, a protozoal infection, causes seizures in cats. Some cats have liver or kidney problems that lead to seizures. Cats can have seizures after ischemic neuropathy (loss of blood flow to a portion of the brain). Trauma is a possible cause. The seizures can occur a long time after the initiating trauma. Some toxins cause seizures, such as lead and insecticides. Brain tumors can cause seizures but this usually occurs in cats that are older.

    Thanks for being here. I am in a panic since my “baby” is going thru this. It is extremely hard to witness.

    I will keep everyone informed.

  114. Linda | January 1, 2008 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Take this for what it is worth. I would still contact my Veterinarian. The following information is from:

    How to Treat a Cat’s Convulsions/Seizures
    by Sheldon Rubin, DVM

    How to Treat a Cat’s Convulsions and Seizures
    A convulsion or seizure is rarely fatal for a cat, but it can be a frightening experience, especially if witnessed for the first time. It is important for a cat owner not to panic. You are not in danger, but the cat needs help to protect him or her from self-injury.
    If your cat is experiencing a convulsion or seizure, use the following cat care tips to help him or her:

    Step 1: Do not place your fingers or any object in the cat’s mouth.

    Step 2: Pull the cat away from walls and furniture to prevent self-injury.

    Step 3: When the seizure or convulsion has stopped, contact the veterinarian for further instructions.

    Step 4: If the seizure or convulsion does not stop within 10 minutes, or if the cat comes out of the seizure and goes into another one within an hour, transport the cat to the veterinarian immediately.

    Step 5: Expect the cat to be dazed and very frightened for 10 to 15 minutes after the seizure or convulsion.

    Be patient; do not panic. Seizures and convulsions are rarely fatal, and most last only a few minutes. Call the veterinarian for further instruction.

    ©Publications International, Ltd.

  115. Rose Montagu | January 1, 2008 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Hi Debra & Linda,
    Well firstly girls I live in Australia so even though I would love a vsit Debra a bit on the tricky side.What an absolutely lovely thought and I thank you.
    I just don’t know what to do for Tiff.I’v read about temporary blindness but how long is temporary blindness?Tiff is so lost.
    I look forward to hearing from Linda after your appointment for your “Kitty” on Thursday. What is your cat’s name by the way Linda?
    Happy New Year to you both too :).
    Debra, hoping Kelby is ok today too.
    Lovely chatting to you both and I agree with Debra. It’s such a girl thing to chat about our problems.
    Speak soon,

  116. Danielle | January 1, 2008 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    hello rose, i am also in australia.. where abouts are you? im on the goldcoast.. its been hard wih my lil man and his seizures and if you need someone to talk to im here ok … you can email me on try keep your spirits up xx

  117. Rose Montagu | January 1, 2008 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    Hi Danielle,
    I live north of Brisbane.Thanks for that Danielle. What is your cat’s name and how old is he? Tiffany has only had 2 seizures ,that I know of, terrible thing to watch.
    Tiffany is approx.15 years old so she has had a pretty good life until now. Don’t know what to do.Have rung Pets In Peace in ready for the big decision but then I look at her and can’t do it. Will wait a month and see how she travels.So hard.She is so lost and keeps bumping into the walls and then she will just sit. Found her outside,small backyard, sitting in the rain yesterday.So not like her to do that.
    Anyway, enough about Tiff.
    Danielle, what is the story with your lil puss cat?

    Thank you for your email to chat that is sweet.

  118. Debra | January 1, 2008 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    ohh ok well I guess my dropping by to help is not in the forseeable future.

    Danielle.. what is your fur child’s story?

    Rose.. don’t make any snap decisions yet.. talk with another vet.. honey see a holistic vet. Get another opinion from a tradtional vet. I see my beloved tradtional vet and also an incredible holistic vet who had treated my beloved Morgan until he crossed over suddenly in July. She also sees my three legged fir son Jesse James and now my Kelby. My tradtional vet whole heartedly encourages her patients seeking out alternative treatments if it means not having to use medications that can be hard on the fur child’s body. If the holistic medications will work WITH the tradtional medications my vet is all for it.. seek out a holistic vet’s opinion honey. Don’t give up hope. ALso can you look online for a REIKI Practitioner in your area for your Tiffany? I’ll also send Reiki for her.
    IF we all link arms and support each other we can get thru this.. we can share ideas… help and support each other.. and we can get thru this and help our babies too.

    Let’s keep this thread and support for our babies and each other going.

    Blessings to all of you,

  119. Dell | January 3, 2008 at 6:09 am | Permalink

    Thank you for this site. It is comforting to read how owners deal with cats with seizures so feeling a little less
    frustrated. My ginger Goldie is a stray whom we picked up 5 yrs ago, he tested FIV+ but it is doing well on
    Transfer Factor Advanced Plus, an immunity booster.
    In the last 8 mths, it has 4 episodes of seizures of short duration. The first one, he fell off his hammock which we thought was clumsliness and he pee-ed. Subsequently we realised it was more than that. Vet said it was epilepsy
    but as it was not too bad, no medication. Blood tests and x-rays did not show up any other problems. I am thinking of an MRI though that would be very costly in Singapore (I’m sure it is costly anywhere).
    I have just ordered PetAlive EaseSure on-line and hope that it would help. Thank you for the suggestion. Actually I had ordered from PetAlive before and delivery (to Asia) was fast. We used a lot of hollistic treatment because our vet is very supportive. Yes, we believe in Reiki, accupuncture & laser therapy - cats are so quiet during treatments.
    We have removed shelves and high furniture out of the room (Goldie shares room with another FIV cat) after reading about falls and have places these spiky stuff (called Don’t Cat, Japanese product) on window sills. Hopefully Goldie would stay floor-bound.
    Thank you for all these excellent suggestions from this site.

  120. debra | January 3, 2008 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Hi Dell,
    I am so sorry that your sweet baby is having such a hard time. Have you taken her to your local vet for tests? I htink a blood work up is the usual first step. I will be happy to send your Goldie Reiki.. and also if you have the chance perhaps ask a Reiki Practitioner in your area to come over. Cats do not usually require alot of Reiki like other animals or humans… when they have had enough they will let you know.

    Our Kelby has been seizure free for 2 days…we are hoping tha the Phenobarbital has started to become effective.

    Let’s band togetehr and share whatever we information we can gather.

    We lived on Okinawa for 4 years.. and loved it. Are you in SIngapore permanently or job related? I hav eheard it is lovely there.


  121. debra | January 3, 2008 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    HOw is your lil man doing? HAs he had any more seizures? WHat did the Neurologists say today?

    I am thinking about you both.

    ROse… how is Tiffany doing?

    Ladies.. write when you can..


  122. Dell | January 4, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Hi Debra,
    Goldie is doing ok after seizure two days ago. I think the recent seizure is milder and being further apart. I wonder if it is due to the milk thistle that is said to promote healthy liver function. I know it seems like hocus pocus, but i rather use hollistic supplements - with my vet’s approval of course.
    I will bring Goldie for another blood test as the last one was a couple of mths ago and perhaps test for toxoplasmosis and deworming. I tried out
    raw food diet recently as Goldie had a food allergy problem too. Anyway Goldie had seizures before the raw food diet. On reflection, raw food diet may not have been a good choice, i have stopped it. BTW, i am Singaporean.
    Goldie is actually named Golda but everyone called the cat Goldie instead.

  123. Linda | January 6, 2008 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    Hi everyone,

    I took Biscuit (13 years old cat) to the Vetinary Neurologist on Thursday. Here is what I learned in layman’s terms.
    Biscuit is having Grand Mal Seizures. Blood work shows liver, kidney, thyroid or other type of organ issues. (Biscuits blood test came back negitive - good). A series of leg movements, eye movements, and balance test were done. This was to see if motor skills were affected. (Biscuit did OK on her test). The neurologist suggested that a MRI to be done. MRI’s look at the brain and indicate any abnormal liquid/spaces. If liquid/spaces were located, it would indicate issues with the brain. In some cases, surgery is done, at times medication is given. (Biscuit’s MRI came back good). Next a spinal tap was done. This is to locate any toxins. If toxins are located, some can be treated or elimated. (Biscuit’s spinal tap came back good). With negitive results to the test, Biscuit was classified as havine “Epilepsy”. This means that the doctor can find no underlining cause. Biscuit was started on Phenobarbital. This has stopped her seizures and the doctor believes that we could ween her off of the medication in about a year (as long as she has less than 1 seizure a month). We need to have another blood work-up in about 30 days to assure the phenobarbital is at the proper level in her system. Phenobarbital was fairly inexpensive. 45 pills (45 days worth = 1/2 of pill - twice a day) dispensed at the vet only cost $9.00. The vet will call a script into any “regular pharmacy” when we near the last of the 45 day script. This is to be sure the meds are working properly, based on blood test, and that the dose does not need to be adjusted.

    Biscuit had her seizures just when she started to fall asleep. The doctor said most seizures occurr when someone is just falling asleep or just prior to wakeing up. This is when the brain is working at a “slower level” than when someone is awake and alert. The doctor said for every 10 animals, he would see 9 dogs to 1 cat. In other words, cat seizures are more on the rare side, but he still sees cats on a regular basis.

  124. Dell | January 7, 2008 at 5:35 am | Permalink

    Hi Linda,
    You gave a comprehensive step-by-step set of instructions of what to do with a cat with seizure/epilepsy and the treatment given. Thank you. This is actually what my vet said to do too if seizure is on a regular basis. Kindly give update on how the cat respond to phenobarbital - i can certainly learn from you. BTW, is phenobarbital to be taken during cat’s lifetime or is it be tapered off eventually?

  125. Linda | January 7, 2008 at 7:44 am | Permalink


    Biscuit is doing great on phenobarbital. There has had no seizures since she went on the medication. The vet said she may want to eat, sleep, and/or drink more water than usual, but that should disappear within 7 to 10 days. So far, I have not noticed any unusual symptoms. She seems to be back to her “normal” self.
    Based on future blood work and if Biscuit has less than one seizure a month, the doctor feels we can ween her off of phenobarbital, in about a year.
    It was very scarry to see her go thru a Grand Mal Seizure. She had three seizures in three hours just prior to seeing the neurologist. I have hope the seizures can be controlled thru medication, and with time, she will not need to take phenobarbital.
    We were lucky to find the proper dose of phenobarbital for Biscuit. To control the seizures, it may take time and testing to determine the proper amout of medication for your cat.

  126. Dell | January 7, 2008 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    Thank you Linda.
    1 When doing further blood tests, what are the areas to look at?
    2 How could one tell if the correct dose of phenobarbaital is given at a particular time - is there a test? Example, if i give thyroxine to a hypothyroid pet, i could test T4.
    We do not have specialist vets in Singapore, certainly not a veterinary neurologist….wow. Occasionally we do have a veterinary ophthalmologist coming in from Australia. Thank you.

  127. Rose Montagu | January 8, 2008 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    Hi Debra & others,
    Unfortunately I have made the decision to have Tiffany put to sleep as she is just not well at all.This last seizure(although there may have been another one that I have not witnessed) has taken a lot from Tiffany and I cannot stand to see her so lost,frail and blind.Tiffany doesn’t respond to us,won’t let us cuddle her much she is just lost and I need to place her in a “peaceful place.”We will be having her cremated by a lovely company by the name of Pets In Peace. Copius amounts of tears have already flowed but I need to be cruel(to my heart) to be kind(to Tiffany’s spirit) as the old saying goes.Tiffany is not alive anymore.Thank you for being able to chat Debra.You have been lovely and the others comments have been very interesting.Good luck with Kelby and know there will be lots more smoochies and cuddles to come his way!
    Take care and thank you for being there to chat :).

  128. Debra | January 8, 2008 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Dear Rose,
    Many Blessings. I am so terribly sorry. I Know how difficult this decision is to make and know that it was so veryhard for you but one that I am sur eyou made with your baby’s best interest at heart.

    Please know that my thoughts an dprayers will be with and Tiffany as she crosses the Rainbow Bridge. She willbe well and whole and will be waititng for that far off time when you will greet her again.

    Plesae know that my heart breaks with you. I am so very sorry.


  129. Rose Montagu | January 8, 2008 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Tiffany has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. I know she knows she is missed deeply!!!!!Cannot stop crying. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers Debra.

  130. Debra | January 9, 2008 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Ohhh Rose,
    I am so terribly terribly sorry. I Know what it is like. One of my fur children died suddenly July 26th. I miss him so very much and I tink we all know how much pain you are feeling.
    I am so sorry my friend. Tiffany WILL meet you one day. She is whole again and helathy now. She’ll play until the day comes for you to meet her.Keep her close to your heart. She knows you love her and miss her… You did what you had to do for her.

    I am here if you need me.


  131. Rose Montagu | January 9, 2008 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    I thank you Debra very much.It is nice to have someoe ,who adores cats, to talk to in our hour of grief.My heart aches so bad at times but I know I did the right thing for her happiness.
    Tiffany was a beautiful grey Persian that I paid $50 for from a lady who rescued cats about 13 years ago and Tiff was 2 years old at the time.
    When things have been finalised with my Tiff, go to the website and look at Tori my first cat and hopefully Tiffany will be there soon.This company is so professional and gives you the closure that we need when losing someone so dear even though some people may boo-hoo it - it’s works for us.I read about the Rainbow Bridge on this site after you had mentioned it.Would love to keep in touch and will talk to Danielle to.
    Take care and give Kelby a smooch for me.
    Rose xx

  132. Debra | January 9, 2008 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Dear Rose,
    Let’s try and keep in touch. I would love to give you my e mail address. Do you have other fur children?
    All of ours have been adopted from shelters or were strays. We tend to adopt the ones that have physical challenges and have been abused in some way. I adore all of them. Kelby is so special and has been our biggest challenge. He arrived so full of hate and anger. If we had not taken him he woul dhave been killed becasue he is blind. His owner turne dhim in becasue she was expecting a baby and didn’t want Kelby any longer. He has chosen my husband a shis person. He absolutely adores my husband andmy husband him. Kelby sits very quietly while Jim wipes his poor little eye sockets out. This is such a special child. I don’t understand how humans can thorw a fur child away like they were garbage.If you had a human child with a physical challenge would you throw them away too… well some might.. but not me. Kelby already had so many things against him.. he stole my heart… and now with the seizures.. even more so. I will do whatever I have to help him. That goes for all of ours.
    I would love to see your Tiffany after everything is set up ….you will live forever in your heart.. and I KNOW she will come to you in your dreamstate. I know that our beloved fur children live forever in our hearts, and will come see us in our dreams and also leave us signs that they are ok.

    PLEASE keep in touch….know that my heart is breaking for you.. and I pray that your precious little girl will come to you to let you know sh eis ok….
    She will be waititng for you at the Rainbow bridge.. know it my friend and believe it in your heart an din your head.. someday we will all be there together…

    Many many blessings,

  133. Molly | January 11, 2008 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    My kitty is 11 years old. Today she had a minor seizure that lasted less than 15 seconds. We took her to the vet and were told that if she has more than one a month she needs to be on medication. Also if she has one that lasts more than 5 minutes we are to wrap her in a blanket and bring her straight to the vets (this is if she’s not on meds yet). The reason we are to wrap her in a blanket is to avoid her biting because in that state, the animal will do just that. It isn’t overly rare for cats to have seizures but more common in dogs. Seizures can also be from the cat eating something that isn’t okay to eat (not sure what that is in particular) or the animal could have meningitis or another disease and it is a reaction to that..or just seizure prone! ALWAYS go to a vet and get your pet checked out if you can. It is expensive sometimes, but if you have a good vet, they will let you pay them over a period of months. If not, shame on them! I’m figuring this seizure was a result of her possibly having bladder cancer. She’s got signs of it. We won’t know for a few days yet the results of that biopsy. So that’s all I know about seizures in cats, but I thought it might help to share. God bless! -Molly

  134. Debra | January 11, 2008 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    God Bless you Molly,
    You have come to the right place. We are all in the same boat here. All of us have cats that we love and adore and all of our cats have seizures. Mine seems to one of the youngest.. as he is only 2.Kelby has seizures almnost every day for several weeks lasting 1-2 minutes. He has been on 2cc Phenobarbital 2x day for the last 3 weeks. It has finally started to kick in and he has been seizure free for a little more then a week.I t took the meds about 2 weeks to become effective. H ehad his pheno levels check this week as well as his complex blood work done. THe levels check came back as a little below normal which is good.. meaning that if need be we can up the dose and not harm him. The blood work was all within the normal range. next is a liver bile test.
    Molly I am praying that your precious doesn’t have cancer.. but if she does know that we will all be here for you. It is hard to see our babies go thru these seizures. I Have learned in the past few weeks that I can come here and talk and share and gain new information and insights. COme back and talk with us.. we’ll be here for you and with you.. no matter what. You have friends here.


  135. Rose | January 12, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Hi Debra,
    Just can’t sleep well.Hope you don’t mind that I still chat.I have a ginger cat called Meggy,although Meggy is a he, but when we first got him they told us he was a she.Left the name as he kind of suits it.
    I feel ok for awhile and then at night I think to much about Tiffany or I’ll find a clump of her fur and off I go again.Breaks my heart but yes I know she is in a better place now.
    We also have a deaf dog,Scruffy and a little chubby white Maltese,Muffin.Oh, we have fish too.
    Scruffy we got from Sippy Creek rescue kennels and Muffin was finished with re breeding and so we paid $80 for her and she is the sweetest dog but awful teeth.May have to be removed eventually.
    Can you give Kelby a big cuddle for me please :).
    Anyway, will try to think happy thoughts of Tiff and go to sleep.
    Thanks for reading.
    Rose xx

  136. Debra | January 12, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Ohhh Rose,
    HOney, I am sure no one cares that you still post here. You love your blessed Tiffany.. sh ewill always be your baby girl. It doesn’t matter if you have other fur children.. when on eis gone it leaves such a void. They know it , an dknow that Momma is upset.
    Our Morgan crossed over within 2 hours in July. He was mu soul kitty. We only adopted him 2 years ago but he was a Momma’s boy. He was 8 when he died. He kept his illness from us until it was too late. He gave absolutely no signs or symptoms until it was too late. I rushe dhim in and he crashed and was gone with in 2 hours. I was absolutely unconsoleable. My husband was in shock. I miss my Morgan so very very much.Our vet said that he wants to spend his time at home with us rather then being poked and prodded. Tiff will ALWAYS be in your heart. Talk to her honey… ask her to come to you in your dreamstate. She will always be your fur child…no matter how many other fur children you have there is a hole in your family an din your heart that will never be filled. When Morgan died.. for weeks I was so depressed.. crying all the time. I saw him everwhere. I still expect him to be sitting in the window or by the door when I come home. I am a nature and animal photograoger and have some beautiful pictures of him.. but I would give anything to hear him talk to me again or have him cuddle on my lap.
    Miss your precious baby girl.. always love her.. kep he rin your heart and love your other babies and pray for Tiff to send you another fur child when the time is right.
    PLEASE come back and post again. I will give you my e mail address if you like and we can e mail if you like.

    Blessings to you my friend,

  137. Rose | January 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    That’s just awful for you and your lil Morgan.You were meant to have him for his last few years and give him all the love that he needed before it was his time.Sounds like he did not suffer for long.Your litle heart must have felt so numb for awhile.
    Yes, I miss her little chats and her purr(motor-haha) and her favorite smoochy places.Tiff did not enjoy her brushing sessions though but we got there.
    Thank you for reading.I just need to chat as the men in my house don’t seem to really miss her as much I do so I feel a bit of a sook at the moment.They understand but they are a bit tougher.
    I tidied up the display cabinet yesterday.Our other cat,Tori, whose ashes are in there in a lovely Urn, will have Tiffany sitting beside him next week.Not looking forward to receiving her tommorrow but then slowly but surely the hurt will lesssen ad I can concentrate on more of the happier moments with Tiff not just her last few days.
    Thank you again for being there Debra and I must say a thank you to the clever person who set this cat - chat up in the first place.Well done and thank you!!
    Speak soon and take care,
    Rose xx

  138. Tony | January 14, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    sigh…Found this page doing a search. My 10 almost 11 year old cat Rayna started doing this a few months back. She will flip out of the chair all of a sudden and onto the floor. She lays on her back, twitches and pees. I got a Boxer last year and during the summer where I live the fleas were really bad this year. Rayna got them really bad from the dog bringing them in. Around the time we got the flea problem under control is when she started doing this. It never lasts more than a minute, but she has her problem 1-3 times a day. She actually stopped doing it for awhile. but the last week has been bad, She’s peed all over the living room. It makes me sad because I rent my house and I can’t have a cat peeing in the house. I’ve had my puddy since she was born.

  139. Debbie | January 14, 2008 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    My 16 year old cat Pouncer had a seizure last night. I found out from my mom later that she had one about 2 years ago but she hadn’t wanted to worry me so she kept it from me. I got Pouncer when I was in high school and left her at my moms when I got married because I didn’t want to upset her moving by around. I finally brought Pouncer to live with me about 1.5 years ago, with good results. So as far as we know this is the second seizure she’s had.

    Hers was either when she was waking up or it woke her up. She was sleeping in a chair like normal, woke with what I thought was a bad dream and then proceeded to chase her tail. I thought maybe she had something stuck to her (Winter here and very static-y) and she slipped from the chair. She ran towards the kitchen table and started convulsing on her side. She tried to move once then continued to convulse. I went to her trying to calm her and keep her from hurting herself. I was terrified and had no idea what was happening, pleading with God to keep her alive and make her better. She finally stopped convulsing and tried to stand up, she was also meowing then, not her normal meow, but she sounded like she was going to be sick (she never peed, pooped, or vomited) you all know what I mean, like she was trying to throw up a hairball. Anyway she is normally very vocal but this wasn’t normal, and she tried to walk but was just going in circles, she couldn’t go in a straight line. She was panting a lot too. I tried desperately to find an emergency vet (new to the area) and kept my distance because as much as I wanted to comfort her I was afraid I was making it worse by her wanting to move around. She finally laid down and panted a little longer, I was watching like a hawk to see if there was anything I could do. She was then able to get up and walk straight, stopped panting, then laid on the floor in a place she does sometimes and just laid there, finally sleeping a little. Once she woke up it was like nothing had happened, she seems her old self. She did seem a little more attentive today (she normally is anyway but more so) and I took the day off work to keep an eye on her.

    I was going to take her to the vet, but God forgive me, they indicated there wouldn’t be much, if anything, they could do for this and since she is older I am trying to prepare for expenses I expect will arise, and I want to be able to afford care for something they can help her with. I really hope this was the right decision. She has seemed great all day and I thought about going to work this afternoon but decided to spend the day with her. After I found this site I felt somewhat better knowing this isn’t an uncommon issue and hearing your stories knowing I am not alone.

    I do not know if this is connected or not but she has been more ’standoffish’ the last week or so, not sitting next to me as much, etc, I even commented to my mom and best friend about it. I don’t know if this is a sign that a seizure was coming on or just a coincidence. I do try to keep an eye on her behavior overall to watch for abnormalities and hopefully this won’t happen again but if it does maybe I’ll be able to see signs of it.

    Thank you Justin for starting this forum, thank you to all who have posted, and thank you for giving me a place to come to read and share, it is most helpful.

    God Bless.

  140. Janine Marie | January 14, 2008 at 3:57 pm | Permalink


    I am new to this site, but have found some comfort in all of your stories.

    My 14-year-old blind Persian cat named “The Monkey” had his first seizure (that I am aware of) yesterday. I was so scared for him. He had clamped down on his tongue, which was swollen and purple, so I picked him up and pried apart his jaws. He had not injured his tongue, but he was disoriented for nearly an hour. Now he follows me around constantly.

    I am worried, however I cannot afford expensive tests or medications. If he has another I will take him to the vet.

    Please wish me luck. The Monkey is so very special to me.

    Thank you.

  141. Debra | January 14, 2008 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    Dear Tony, Debbie and Janine Marie,
    Blessings be with all of you an dyes we need to thank Justin for starting this forum. I Know hoe much it has helped me in th elast 4-6 weeks. Just being able to talk with other cat owners whose fur children are seizing is such a great comfort!
    Janine.. there is ALWAYS something that can be done.. so do NOT alet anyone tell you differently. My advice to all of you is to start a JOURNAL. Keep a written record when the seizures start.. how long they last, what time of day, night etc the seizures start. DO they happen when your baby is asleep or awake? How long do the seizures last. stay with your baby…talk softly to them while they going thru it. We usually have a towel ready when Kelby has his. we put it over him and lay our hands on him so he knows we are here. Sometimes he urinates sometimes not. He also frothes atthe mouth. Describe everything in your written account! What did you notice just before the seizure started.. describe everythign you can remember DURING it.. what part of their body was affected.. did they bring their hind legs up or front or whole body.. how long did it last. LOOK at the clock.. tim eit. HOw long did it take them to “come out” of it.. were they disoriented? What happens afterward? Are they breathing heavily or more rapid and shallow? Our Kelby recovers rather quickly bu tthen is famished and eats everything in sight as he uses up so much energy.
    Kelby only has his seizures when he is in a deep sleep….coming out of or going into.
    If any of your cats have had more then three seizures within a month or two take your journal and your child into your vet ASAP. Your vet can start them on Phenobarbital IMMEDIATELY. It may take a few weeks for it to kick in but it is well worth it. After 2-3 weeks your vet will want to do a phenobarbital levels check to make sure your child is getting the proper dosage.
    Kelby is only 2 years old and is also totally blind .. which made the seizures ever more scary. It took about 2 weeks for the phenobarbital to kick in but it finally did. He ha sbeen seizur efree for about 2 weeks.. we are treading carefuly and we have had one set of blood tests done and more to go…
    If you are in a financial bind.. see if there is a teaching Veterinary college near you.. call or e mail and ask if you can bring your fur child in for an evaluation. It is mor ecommon for DOGS to have seizures then cats. Alot of veternary schools may like to havetheir students evaluate your child and it may not cost you anything. It is worth a try.

    We are all here together.. and I know I will continue to post. I think thisis a learing experience for all of us.. and the more information we can gather togeter and share then the better armed we are when we see our vets.

    I take my journal in every time I see my vet. I am very very lucky as I am blest to have the best vet in the area! I love he rdearly and even have her e mail address… The journal WILL help you.. I promise. After a few entries you may start to see a pattern emerge as to time of day, and what brings the seizures on. It is very helpful to your vet as they will most likely see your fur child have a seizure.. what you write can be their eyes and help them.

    We are all here together….

    Blessings to all of you.

    Rose.. MY heart aches for you and I will write back to you tomorow.

    Blessings to all of you,

  142. Cheryl Wrona | January 15, 2008 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    Have any of you thought about the time frame of seizures with shots? Shots can cause a lot of this and vets will not agree with this. I just had to stay up all night with one of my cats because the vet gave her some stuff so they could take blood from her for a test. She is a very cranky cat. She came home and I was told she would be out all night. about four hours later she started having seizures and I was up til 6am. Now, think about this….after say a spay/neuter of a cat or dog and the vet keeps the mall night to make sure things are okay, right. But the vet people are not at the vet office all night so they never know about this stuff.
    Please start reading about how meds and things are messing up our animals. I just read were, cats especially, are starting to have a type of brain swelling problems-probable cause in the holistic vet world-the flea chemicals you put up on the animals neck which is just behind, yes the head where the brain is located.
    I have not given any shots to my cats for eight years, I feed raw mostly. It’s not that tough to go to raw. Dr. Pitcairn’s book is a good one to start with.

    My heart goes out to all of you who have to go through this awful stuff.

  143. Rose | January 15, 2008 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    I do remember when Tiffany had her bad second seizure that my son ,17, was loudly tapping a knife on to the edge of a tin can. We use to do this to tell the cats that it was food time but along time ago we noticed that Tiffany reacted,slightly,to this action. Not blaming him as he wasn’t to know the repercussions of his actions.
    This wasn’t the case when we saw her first seizure last April though.
    Hi Janine Marie - how is Monkey.My Tiffay was a grey persian. How does Monkey and yourself workout the blindness situation? My Tiffany only lost her sight with the latest seizure and that was shocking for her.
    Hi Debra, thank you for your thoughts.xx
    Don’t cry as much but just deep sad,missing her feelings :(.It almost does’t feel real that Tiffany is gone.
    How is Kelby Debra?
    Take care all.

  144. Annie | January 15, 2008 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    Hi Everyone,

    I just went through and read everyone’s comments and it makes me feel a little better that I’m not the only one that is going through this. 2:30am this morning my cat Marshy had a seizure, the loud thumping woke me up. He was in the corner of my bedroom near my desk have convulsions with eyes open, mouth open hind legs kicking and rocking back and forth, salivating, and when he nears the end of the seizure there is a long cry that follows and then he sits and stares off in space for a minute trying to regain consciousness but confused. This was the very first time I’ve witnessed my cat having a seizure. I felt totally helpless I moved as much furniture away from him and could only stand there and pray it would stop soon. I think it lasted about a minute. It was the most disturbing thing I ever saw. My brother has seen 2 of them. 1 of them 3 years ago and the 2nd one about 2 months ago November 2007. I had blood work done on him in November after my brother called me and told me about it. Everything came back normal, which I was glad. However, I’m frustrated that we don’t know what is causing his epilepsy. My brother thinks it was the smell of the thai food that he brought back home 2 months ago, the same kind I bought last night. However when I called my vet this morning, he doesn’t think it has anything to do with it. He just reassured me that they don’t feel the pain of the seizures and the only pain they have is the confusion that follows afterwards. I gave him a bowl of fresh cold water and it was obvious he was thirsty, I could tell that he was still confused but got a little better within a few minutes, he started walking around the whole house just to check where he was. The vet also told me that they know when they are about to have seizures, and usually they go through phases where they will look for their owners for attention, and vocalize which could last from few minutes to hours before the seizure happens. The vet also told me just as long he is not having them back to back in a day and that once every 2 months is ok. It makes me sad that some cats get them. The only thing I can do now is observe and document when he has them, hopefully it doesn’t worsen.

  145. Debra | January 15, 2008 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Hi Annie,
    Deb here.. I wrote the long explative last night on the importance on writing down every observation. Write down the TIME and the duration.
    Was your baby asleep when this happened?
    Our Kelby was usually asleep and in a deep REM sleep when his come.
    Write everything down exactly what you told us. Also write down when the last one occured and the TIME.
    EVERY thing is important.
    If he has another one.. go to him…. get a blanket or town… cover him up and lay next to him or place your hand on him.. bend down and talk softly to him.. let him hear your voice. DO NOT cry or get hysterical as haard as that is not to do. YOu have to try and stay calm for them. Talk to him.. reassure him that you love him and it’s ok.. everything will be ok.Trust me.. It is hard to remain calm but try ok?
    If your fur child has another one within the next few days you call your vet IMMEDIATELY and take him in! IF he has several seizures in a day….. you rush him in!IF any seizure lasts more then 5 minutes you rush that child in.. seizures can raise their temperatures so high that it can fry their brains. also if they have one after another.
    THat is why it is so important keep documentaion.
    You are not alone.. we’re all in this together. We love our babies, and we al want to do everything for them.
    PLEASE come back and keep posting and let us know what happens ok?

    get new blood work done and get him on PHENOBARBITAL.

  146. Debra | January 15, 2008 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Dear Rose,
    You come here anytime and talk about your precious Tiffany. Oh Rose.. How I Know that feeling of Tiffany being gone as a feeling of not being real…I am sure athta you still half expect her to be there when you wake up….sit on your lap etc. I am sure that your other cat(s) also miss her. We brought Morgan home and let everyone sniff him so they would know that he was gone. Death has it’s own scent.. for humans as well as animals. I believe that hey need to see and smell their companions so they know that they are gone. Mac and Tucker slept right next to me for several nights as if saying it’s ok Momma we miss Morgan too.
    When Kelby has a seizure it is usually at night while in a deep slep. The “boys” all sleep in our room and they all know that something is terribly wrong. They keep their distance but are well aware that something is wrong with Kelby. ANimals can sense when something is wrong with another. I Am sure that your other cats miss your precious Tiffany too. Keep an eye on them… If they are not as playful.. don’t eat as much, sleep more… that is a sign that they could be depressed and are grieving.
    Tiff was your baby girl.. she wasn’t just a pet she was your little girl.. you loved her.. you still do.. and you come here and talk about her all you want.. we all understand. At least I know I do.

    Love and blessings my friend,

  147. Cheryl Wrona | January 16, 2008 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Please, please would all of you consider what you are feeding you cats and all the shots. There is a ton of books out there about the effects on cats of the awful food you feed and what is believe to be the illnesses that shots could be creating. Conventional vets will not agree with this statement nor do they believe in homeopathic/holistic medicine. I just read that cats are starting to have brain swelling problems at the base of the head . In the holistic vet world they are thinking the problem is from all the chemicals put there for flea control and this is just now starting to filter down through the generations of cats. Please stop believing drugs are the only answer. Think of the side affects. I treat a cats with specific supplements, depending upon the problem. I have cats with kidney disease, hyperthyroid, one has no intestines, two have stomach problems. They all get the same raw foods just different supplements. My FIV cat was positive now he is FIV equivocal. It is rare they go to negative but I will test him soon again to see if I can.
    Please do not assume drugs will be your salvation when you might be having things done to your cat that could possibly be causing the problem.

    Me and my kitties wish you all the best :)

  148. sandra | January 16, 2008 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    Dusty is my 2 year old baby. His first seizure happened when he was one year old. He has between 1-10 seizures EVERY DAY since then. I took him to the emergency animal hospital
    (the best in my area) and had him looked at by an experienced neurologist. Dusty was given several blood tests and tested negative on each. The doctor said that usually if they test negative for everything they assume it is epilepsy. Dusty was put on phenobarbotal twice a day. This did not seem to help. After about 8 months of the phenobarb, the DR wanted to try Diazapam (Valium). This seems to make the seizures slightly less severe, but not any less frequest. Dusty has good day (about 1-3 seizures) and bad days (4-10 seizures). He only has seizures when he goes to sleep. They last between 5-45 seconds each. On rare occasions he foams at the mouth. I have a feeling that he is not epilectic. The doctor says he’s too young to have a brain tumor but nearly everything else has been ruled out and I have not encountered anyone that is familiar with a cat having this many seizures. I can get an MRI to scan for a tumor but it’s very expensive and I’m not sure it would help, as there is not much they can do for such a thing. Dusty is otherwise a very happy cat. I worry about him every day and I’m very scared I might loose my little boy too soon. <3 Please let me know if anyone else has a cat that has seizures this frequent. thanks! Sandra in VA

  149. Debra | January 16, 2008 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    WHERE are you in Va.. I am also in Va. I am in Stafford just above Fredericksburg.
    My Kelby is 2 years old and started seizing last month. He only has 1 per day. The phenobarbital has helped him. He has been seizure free for the last 2 weeks.
    HAs your vet done a BILE-LIVER test?
    All of Kelby’s complex blood work also came back negative and the phenobarbital levels came back low which is good. If we should need to increase it we have room.
    Did you have a phenobarbital levels check done yet?
    Have you had one done recently?
    I would love to meet your baby if you live in the area.

    Do NOT give up.. we’ll getthru this together.


  150. Debra | January 16, 2008 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Hi Cheryl,
    I Have 2 vets. My main vet is a tradtinal vet WHO highly recommends using holistic vets.. and one is in my area that I also use. I have been using my holistic vet for almost 2 years. The group of vets that I use work in cooperation with my holistic vet and any other vet that will do good for the animal.
    Kelby was vaccinated back in April… there was no swelling and no VAS as I watch my fir children like a hawk. If my vet thought there was any risk she would tell me.
    I hav etried using a pure natural food but it is so high in protein that they throw it up. I don’t and have not used any food that was ever recalled. I never use any store brand food and only use Purina foods.
    I hav epicked my tradtional vet’s brain as well as my holistic vet. Kelby is also taking natural supplemnets along witht he phenobarbital. I asked my tradtional vet and she said if it helps him and can DECREASE the pheno level then all the better. My holistic vet said that the meds she prescribed and th ephenobarb ARE compatible.
    I Am also a Reiki Master and when petting Kelby I give him Reiki.

    Blessings be with you and I thank so much for your kindness and concern. I hope that your babies are all well an dhelathy.


  151. Cheryl Wrona | January 17, 2008 at 7:48 pm | Permalink
    Something on this website under seizures says to document everything about them that you observe. Also consider anything poisonous to your cat, especially if outdoor cat.
    I have not read this vets book yet,but I have read some of her stuff on her website. She is cats only. I am going to do some more researching into homeopathic things.
    Please consider when you got your cats shots. These can cause problems later on down the road. Conventional vets do not correlate shots with any problems. Homeopathic vets do.

  152. sandra | January 17, 2008 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Hi Debra,
    thanks for sharing. I’m not far from you at all. I live in woodbridge, va. Dusty’s doctor is in Springfield. I’ve had his phenobarb level tested back when he was on that. they ended up increasing his dose and checking is liver soon after. When the phenobarb proved not to work, they switched him to diazapham. It’s harder on the liver and kidneys but does decreased the severity of the seizures. So your kitty has one per day? that they most frequent that i’ve heard of besides my Dusty. I would like to find out if it actually is a tumor but an MRI costs over $1500… and i’ve already spent about $2000 and still know nothing. Thanks for your caring thoughts! I hope your baby get’s better soon.

  153. Cheryl Wrona | January 17, 2008 at 8:03 pm | Permalink


    What brand of natural food did you try? The quality of Purina is very poor and you have to really work slow to change over. Enzymes help with this really well. I do the raw thing so I never have any problems except with beef, so I avoid it. Seems to have to many germs cuz my cats barf it up a lot.
    Check out the books Foods Pets Die For and Stop the Shots. These books have a lot of insight on the health issues cats and dogs are having.
    Also, I have learned that some vets call themselves “holistic” but they are not in the sense that I consider “holistic”. I consider a “holistic” vet to be one that practices homeopathic medicine. Before I moved to where I live now I called a vet and they told me they were holistic. Stupid me, I figured that meant they practiced homeopathic medicine. They do not, but I guess cuz he does chiropractic and acupuncture he can say he is holistic.
    Sorry for the double posts. I didn’t see anyone address a letter to me until too late.

    Keep in there. There is always hope. :)

  154. Debra | January 17, 2008 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Hi Cheryl,
    I have been saying to document everything since day one. If you go back and read my posts you’ll see that I said to document everything that happens. It is so very helpful to the vet. My vet reads everything that I write regarding the seizures.

    I think that I am blest in having a wonderful tradtiional vet and her colleagues whom all highly recommend using holistic vets and any othe rtreatment if it is for th ebenefit of the blessed fur child.


  155. Debra | January 17, 2008 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Hey Sandra,
    I live in Stafford.. not far from you at all.
    I take my fur children to Aquia/ Garrisonville and my holistic vet is Dr. Farthing. ALL are incredible.
    I Know that there is an awesome emergency veteriary hospital in Woodbridge. My vet said if need be she will give me the names of some highly thought of neurologists in the area.

    One question: Was your baby adopted from someplace? wa she a stray? How did you come to adopt him? I am wondering if he didn’t have any head trauma. WHat does he look like? What color are his eyes?

    Maybe we could meet someplace and I could meet your baby. I don’t know if you know or have ever heard of Reiki but I am a Reiki practitioner and would be happy to give Dusty a treatment if you like.

    Kelby has been seizure free for about the last 2 weeks. Th ephenobarbital has finally kicked in. I’ll be having the liver, bile test soon.

    How are Dusty’s seizures now? Is he still having multiple ones per day?


  156. B.W. | January 18, 2008 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    I agree that it is very important to remain calm when this happens. I believe they are total aware of their surroundings when this happens but are unable to control their body.

    My cat just had one about two hours ago. I took him in to our veterinarian four months ago for full blood work. This blood work found him to be healthy which is great. However, no clue as to why he has seizures. I was referred to a neurologists.

    I work from home. I am luckily enough to be here to hold him when it happens. I hold him and talk to him calling his name (which he knows) and letting him know that I love him. Of course I am scared during this occurrence. However, my first priority is not my feeling it is clearing things around him or picking him up and placing him in a safe place during the 30 to 60 seconds this happens.

    He use to have seizures like clock work monthly, generally toward the end of the month. The last time he had one was in October 2007. This is odd but good. He is not on medication.

    I will examine the chemicals in my home to see what he encounters on a daily basis that could be an allergen.

    It was great of you to take a picture of your cat during this episode. Sometimes something as common as an epileptic seizure can make us feel as if we are so alone. It is comforting to know we are not alone and that we can talk to each other about what we are experiencing. Please do not misunderstand, it is not great we are experiencing this but it is great we can talk about it and be understood.

    Thank you.

  157. Debra | January 18, 2008 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Hi B.W.
    How old is your cat?
    Don’t forget to write down everything you observe after his seizure is over. Try to keep track of what time of the day or night he has them.
    Kelby has them when is asleep.
    He is on phenobarbital now which has helped him so much.

    I do underatdn when you said it is great that we can all come here and talk and sahre what our fur children are going thru.. I htink it helps alot.
    PLEASE come back.


  158. sandra | January 20, 2008 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    thanks for all your concern. I would love to find a great neurologist in woodbridge. Dusty’s neurologist just moved all the way out to Ashburn and besides being really far away, she was out of ideas on what to do for him. Dusty is a 2.5 year old dark grey kitty with yellow eyes. He was rescued from a home that was filthy and had about 30 cats. He was about 8-10 weeks old when i got him. His first seizer happend about one year later. It’s possible he’s inbread. Let me know if you have any ideas. I’m glad the phenobarb is working for your cat. Is it liquid or pill form? Dusty was on the liquid but it didn’t help him much. Talk to you later. Sandra

  159. aubycat | January 21, 2008 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    Thank you to everyone who has posted here. My 13yr m cat, Peanut had a seizure this AM and all your info was a HUGE help. I appreciate it. I will be back in the near future to read more and give an update. Peanut’s, as far as I know, was asleep when his seizure started and he on his left side. He has a little bit of drool coming out of his mouth with a very small about of blood; I think he may have bitten his tongue. The seizure lasted a minute or two and it was obvious he was scared after, because I have not heard him purr that loud in a very long time. He was very cuddle too. :) He is fine now. :)

    Take care all and keep posting.

  160. Janine Marie | January 21, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Hi Debra and Rose,

    Thank you so much for your kind words and insight. The Monkey has not had another seizure that I am aware of. He is still much clingier than he used to be, but I love every minute of it!

    I’ll keep you abreast of his progress and/or set-backs.

    Thanks again!

  161. Debra | January 21, 2008 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Hi Sandra!
    How is Dusty doing? Is he still having multiple seizure a day? I htink about him every day and pray he is getting better.
    I’ll ask my vet for the name and numbers of neurologists in the area. I’ll be taking Kelby in next week for a bile, liver test.

    What meds is he taking now? An alternative to the Phenobarbital is I believe I believe a Bromide combo. Has he tried that?
    Would it be ok if I asked my vet and tell her about your Dusty?
    Dusty sounds like he is so beautiful.

    When was the last tiime yo had a complex work up on him.. maybe it is a virus in his system from when he was born… did the toxoplasmosis results come back negative?

    I would love to meet you sometime.. maybe at Potomac Mills….we could exchange numbers etc and keep in contact in case we needed to reach each other.


  162. Debra | January 21, 2008 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Hi Aubycat and Janine,
    THis is new to all of us…never in my wildest thoughts would I have ever thought that one of my fur children would have seizures. He already has a strike against.. several realy. He was born totally blind then surrendered by his owner in April bec she was pregnant and said this was best for him…..don’t take me down that road. Anyway…it is HER loss and our gain. H eis our furson and we adore him. No matter what he is in his forever home and we will love him and see that he has the best care forever. So I am thankful tha he was given up. ALL Of ours were dumped and or rescued… which is great.. We have priceless treasures. IN sickness and in health. :-)
    If we can keep in contact with each other and exchange what is happeneing with our fur children.. look on the web.. talk about what is an disn’t working then I think we can all get thru this. YOu all have no idea what a great help and support this has been…to be able to “talk with” other people who have cats that are seizing means so much. It is fairly common for dogs to have seizures but it is rare for cats so all of you are like new family.

    Let’s keep it up! Love and blessings to each of you and your fur children!


  163. Rose | January 31, 2008 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Hi Debra,
    Wondering how Kelby is going? Have his seizures been less with the medication?We also have a deaf dog,Scruffy, and a Maltese Muffy but I think to have a blind animal is very special as it muxt be so difficult for them.I saw Tiffany blind for 2 weeks and that was hard to watch.Kelby is in good hands by the sounds of it.
    It’s now nearly 3 weeks since I said goodbye to Tiffany and I am ok,sometimes, and then the thought of never being able to cuddle her again brings me to tears.Hope you don’t mind me chatting.I lost her at the last seizure and I didn’t realise it till days later.Hope she knew how much I adored her.
    Hope you are taking care of yourself too Debra?
    Rose :)

  164. Debra | February 3, 2008 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    How wonderful to hear from you again!
    I KNOW that your precious Tiffany knew how much you loved and adored her. She still does. Talk to her, she is still with you. She will live in your heart for all times.

    Kelby is doing really well. He’s been seizure free for about 4 weeks. He is back to his normal ornery self. He is adorable and we are so blest to have him when someone else didn’t think he was worth keeping. He is still getting his Phenobarbital every day and that has been a saving grace.

    I am good my friend.. Kelby keeps me busy along with all of our other fur children. I am also a potter and have been busy with that.

    Plesae come back and post again. I will continue to keep you in my prayers and hope that your heart will heal and please know that your precious little girl is always with you.


  165. Kim | February 6, 2008 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Ok so i am very freaked out. My 7month old kitten had a severe gand mal seizure on sunday. My husband found him and it continued for about 5 min. We rushed him to the ER did blood work his amonia level was 3x what it should have been. Dr stated probable liver shunt. Took him to regular vet did next step to see about shunt came back negative. Today they ran a second amonia level. I was probably the scariest thing i have ever witnessed. They had told me before the 2nd test for the liver shunt was back it probably wasnt epilepsy. but no explaination on why he had the seizure!!! I am glad to know i am not the only one with a poor poor little kitty and no explaination

  166. Sean | February 6, 2008 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Hi, my beloved cat, Digit, is 14 - as sprightly as a kitten, but he’s suddenly started behaving weirdly - as if someone was behind him, he kept looking over his shoulder then bolting if it lasted more than a few secs - this got worse to endup happening alomos every 5-7 mins with loss of bowel control thrown in. It’s incredibly distressing. He couldn’t sleep properly for about 4 days & has been spaced out. My vet’s great, she ran tests for liver problems, hepatitis etc etc - all things that can trigger seizures in cats but he was clear - it’s now a case of hoping it’s pure epilepsy rather than a brain tumor (which I understand is quite rare in cats). I just got him home tonight - he’s a bit out of sorts, but loving being home and seeing me and now eating for England! He’s found his voice again, his appetite, & some stability after a frightening few days.
    DO please always take your cats to a vet asap if this happens - it can be a sign of something serious but treatable. And keep calm if your cat has seizures, leave them to it so they don’t get even more stressed, but be there for them when they comout of it. My vet assuresme they generally don’t know what’s going on when it’s happening so don’t worry too much.

  167. Debra | February 6, 2008 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Dear Kim and Sean,
    Blessings be with both of you and your precious fur children. I think it is scariest for us as we watch and are helpless to do anything. As I have stated before and have done is keep a written acount of when your fur child has the seizure. Write down EVERYTHING!!! Write down the TIME your fir child has the seizure.. were they awakw or were they asleep or waking up at the time of the seizure. Time the seizure, how long did it last, what were their bodies doing? were they drawing up their front legs or hind? EVERYTHING is important.. I cannot stress this enough. Your vet will probably not witness this but if you document everything and take it to them it will help. Get a digital thermometer and take their temperatire afterward. Get a baby one that can get a read out in 5 seconds. It is important that their temps do not go up too high. record that too. After it is over how long before they become orientated again. DO they head for the fod and water bowl? While having the seizure.. do thry froth at the mouth and lose bladder abd bowel control?
    If your fur child has more then 1 or 2 seizures ask youe vet about strating on medication. Kelby has been on Phenobarbital since Dec and has been seizure free. But I do not leave him for long periods of time!
    This is a wonderful place where we as fur parents can talk and exchange what works and doesn’t and just knowing that someone KNOWS exactly what you are going thru.
    PLEASE come back.


  168. Kim | February 7, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Well Fred had another seizure last night. Not nearly as long this one only lasted 20-30 sec but was very violent. He flew off the sofa and in the corner thrashing and contorting. We havent got amonia test results back yet. I just feel so helpless. He is so young.

  169. Debra | February 7, 2008 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    Dear Kim,
    I am so sorry that your Fred had another seizure. PLEASE write down everything for your vet. Was he asleep when it happened? or was he coming out of sleep? was he awake? WRITE it all down and CALL YOUR VET in the morning.
    Write everything down that you can remember.. his body position, frothing, bladder or bowel control, was he alert afterward? Honey write everything down. It will help you and your vet. After a few seizures I saw a pattern with Kelby. He has seizures ONLY when he is asleep. I read my notes and it dawned on me that a pattern formed. His seizures occur while he is asleep… so I cannot strongly urge you enough to write it all down. PLEASE let me know how your precious Fred is doing.

  170. Kim | February 8, 2008 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    I started a journal the other night after reading this site. I cannot say for sure if he was asleep the other night. He was relaxing on the back of the sofa.
    Amonia test came back normal so they for sure ruled out the liver shunt. They dont think it is any kind of infection since he is acting normal otherwise. The Dr said that animals prone to seizures can be “scared” into one. We had a thunderstorm the other night that totally scared him so…..The Dr only wanted to start him on meds if he seized again in the next week. So now we play a waiting game.
    Does anyone know if epilipsy is herititary. I also have Freds brother George. I wasnt sure if i needed to watch him too???

  171. Ulle Koolmar | February 8, 2008 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Hi folks,
    My 13 year old foundling cat started
    having seizures about two years ago. She seems to mainly drool
    copiously during these spells. The seizures last, maximum one minute. I have noticed that most are caused by the sound of crinkly snack bags or my tapping on the side of a hard plastic dish. She is treated with phenabarbitol, one pill a day, half in morning and half in evening.
    The last seizure was actually in the Veterinarians office when he
    switched off a heat lamp. The click
    of the switch. Her blood test are all fine. So I try not to make crinkly noises and I transfer any food stuffs into soft freezer bags or glass jars.
    Best of luck everyone.

  172. Rose | February 10, 2008 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    Hi Debra & Others,
    I was reading the notes from Ulle and the same happened to my Tiffany wit hthe tapping on the side of the cat food tin.That is what triggered her last seizure.I don’t know what caused the first one as it was 5am in the morning and from memory very quiet.Such a shocking thing to see for the first time.I thought I was going to lose her then and there in my arms. Tiffany lasted another 8 months before the next one hit her but this time the damage was must worse as she lost her sight and her memory.She didn’t seem to know us.Didn’t like the usual places to sleep would not cuddle into us when we held her.It was like she didn’t know us.Very sad.
    Anyway, all the best with your cat Ulle and Kim with Fred :).My thoughts are with you all.
    Debra, that is great news with Kelby!!What a clever boy.Pass a cuddle on to him from me please.Lovely chatting and will pop back soon another day.This is a lovely site to chat on.
    Keep well all.

  173. Kim | February 12, 2008 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    So Fred had his 3rd seizure in a weeks time. We put him on phenobarbital. We started last night. Hope this works. I just wonder about being on meds the rest of his life. Does anyone else have a multi cat/dog household, and have any problems with the other animals when yours was seizing. My husband and I work full time and of course that leave him alone at home. The three that we witnessed the other animals didnt want anything to do with him untill he was recovering, but it still worries me.

  174. Sue | February 12, 2008 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Hi everyone: Any of you who love a cat like we do - that has seizures - my heart goes out to you and your feline. Lily is only 7 months old and has had seizures for about 5 months. We hoped it would go away with time but has not. We have had every blood test possible to eliminate all possible causes. Bar having a brain scan, we think she had epilepsy. We have done alot of research and have found that shots given to her at 2 months old may have caused proteins formed in her brain. Not sure of the medical explanation. However we have also found that since she was spayed her hormone levels have declined and the length and severity of the seizures have decreased. We are going to try the VERY lowest dose of phenobarbital HALFED to start - and try this out. We are anti-drug at any cost but hate to see her suffer. We see that VALERIAN root is an old anticonvulsant. Has anyone tried this to any success? Lily is prone to seizures any time she gets scared - and those cats with epilepsy or seizures have an over-stimulated nervous system anyone - which makes sense why she would convulse after being scared.

    Tough to watch and endure when you love them so much.

  175. Sue | February 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Also wanted to add that an organic diet is critical for cats/kittens with seizures. I now have Lily on Newman’s Own organic wet food in a can and she loves it. Almost all of the dry foods have preservatives in them which contributes to seizures. Try organic.

  176. Debra | February 15, 2008 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    Kim,and Sue,
    How are your fur children doing on the Phenobarbital? I discovered that it takes up to several weeks for it to become fully effective. Meanwhile Kelby had seizures. I was close to tears an dtearing my hair out…but then one day.. he didn’t have one.. I asked my husband and he said no.. then anothe rday passed and another. It’s been about 6-7 weeks and no seizures! He is on LIQUID phenobarbital (our choice) and received 2 cc 2x day. WHen he had his complex blood work done and a levels check it actually showed that it was a little lower.. whichs is good as that gives us leeway in case it has to be increased.
    Try to remember to keep a written account if they have any more.

    Remember we are all here to help each other.


  177. Kim | February 18, 2008 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Knock on wood no seizures since 2-10. He had seizure activity tues 2-12 weird blinking eyes and twitching tail (what he had done previously after he seized) but no convulsions….thank god. I am still ultra paranoid about him and anytime i am home check on him a million times including getting up 3-4 times a night to check him. thank goodness he takes his pill good. We just squish into a moist treat. Since he has been taking it for almost a week as soon as we go into the cabinet he comes running for his treat!!

  178. Debra | February 18, 2008 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Hi Kim,
    I know what you mean.. I wake up at the slightest sound at night, thinking Kelby is having a seizure.
    I hope that the meds kick in all the way and help your baby…what a good boy that he thinks it’s a treat! Kelby may be blind but knowin ghim.. he’d KNOW that there would be a microscopic pill in something and sniff it out! He’s a pistol.. oh how I love this child.

    Kim.. plesae keep us poste don how your baby is doing.

    Many Blessings,

  179. Joanna | February 19, 2008 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    My precious had a seizure, for the first time tonight. Like everyone else, I freaked. I watched in horror…mostly because I didn’t know what was happening. She was flipping all around, on the floor. I’ve been on the net all night now and reading. She’s an indoor cat, 10 years old and never had any health problems. All of a sudden, while playing, she starts flopping and skidding about like a fish out of water. Knowing her play behaviour, this seemed completely wrong. When she calmed down, she tried walking, with her belly close to the ground, like when she is scared, but her head was swaying back and forth and she was stumbling side-ways. She crawled behind the couch, in the corner. But, she look recovered. She’s fine now. I’m going to take her to the vet.

    I read that trama can cause this. A month ago, my apartment was broken into, during the day. It might have been a shock on her. It’s pretty quiet here and that kind of violence would certainly cause an impression. It certainly did on me! She didn’t come out of hiding for 2 hours after I got home, that night. The fact that she got this after something lke that, wouldn’t surprise me. Cats are very sensitive.

  180. Debra | February 19, 2008 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Hi Joanna,
    Welcome to our little forum. I am Deb and my cat Kelby has seizures. he is currently on Phrnobarbital. He started having seizures in Dec.
    A question for you.. you mentioned that your apt had been broken in recently. Is it possible that the intruder hurt your precious fur child? Since you were not at home during the invasion I am wondering if maybe the burglar didn’t hit her or throw her? You wouldn’t know bec you weren’t home when it happened and it is now manifesting itself. Ask your vet what he/she thinks. We had alot of blood work done on kelby. All came back normal. We have another test to do. He’s been seizure free for about 6 weeks but had so many seizures that my vet put him on phenobarbital.

    PLEASE come back and let us know how your baby is doing.


  181. Sue | March 2, 2008 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    Hey everyone: This blog makes me feel good - like I am not crazy for waking up and checking on Lily all the time - and checking to make sure she is OK all the time. She has had two seizures since getting spayed but they were not as long (about 2 minutes) . . . but she has a tough time bouncing back, has had loose stool, and just doesn’t seem herself. Found a neurologist in NYC who was great. Said rule of thumb is if a cat has seizures less than 4-6 weeks apart, or is less than 5 minutes in duration, they do not medicate. So he suggested we wait a bit following her spay. It was only 2 1/2 weeks so we are now going to medicate her. We are both nervous but have to do this. I hope, like all of you, she does better. Specialist said it could be brain damage and could get worst. She is a love child and we are so torn up about it.

    Sending good thoughts to all of you who are or have been in this situation. Tell me it will get better.

    Best wishes,


  182. Nik | March 3, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Hi everyone,

    I stumbled upon this site when looking up some information regarding cat epilepsy.
    My cat Dino had her first seizure in October 2007 but after reading this and other sites we think it could have been as early as right after she was spayed in March 2007 because she jumped on my bed, froze, and peed. She has had one in January, and most recently last Thursday and now this morning. She is 1.5 years old.

    She doesn’t shake, foam, pee etc. when she seizes. She actually becomes frozen on her left side and her muscles become stiff. Her tail sticks straight out and she is in a ‘zone’. I snapped my fingers in front of her face this morning and she blinked so she seems to know where she is. It’s almost like she becomes temporarily parilyzed on that side and everything is in slow motion. Then, she snaps out of it and is groggy for 10 seconds and acts like nothing happened.

    We performed the blood tests and nothing was out of the ordinary. Also, we’ve lived in 3 homes so this rules out toxic elements etc. in our home that she could be eating. We have never changed her food. The vet said there is a slight chance it could be a brain tumour but it’s unlikely because of her good health and young age. So, she said to monitor the seizures and if they increase we will start medicating her. Well, since she’s had 2 seizures in 4 days plus all the other ones we haven’t seem I’m sure, I called them and will see about putting her on some medicine. She is a very happy, needy, and vocal kitty every day so she definitely doesn’t look like a sick cat.

    My fear is that Dino already has the kitty cold virus (upper resparitory) so the vet said she could get asthma as a side effect of the medicine. I can’t remember the named of the meds but we have 2 options and I certainly don’t want the one that can lead to liver failure…I want her to live a long and happy life. I also don’t want her to have asthma or anything like that.

    Anyone know more about the types of meds that are available? I trust my vet 100% but should be more informed. Have you guys experience side effects?

  183. Debra | March 3, 2008 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    Hi Sue and Nik,
    Plesae be rest assured that your precious fur children CAN lead long an dhappy lives while on Medication.Like you, my husband and I were terrified that our adopted fur child Kelby who is also blind and we only adopted him for a few months when the seizures started. We had all kinds of blood work done, everything is normal. He was seizing day after day. All we could do was stay with him.. talk to him until he stopped. Kelby was only 2 1/2 when he started. He’ll be three this month. His seizures just started in Dec 2007. He now takes PHENOBARBITAL Liquid as that is easier for us to give him then a pill.
    He has been seizure FREE for 2 months!
    There IS hope for your precious fur children. I am taking Kelby in this month to get his phenobarbitallevels checked and talk with my vet about the possiility oftakin ghim off… maybe….we’ll see.
    But I wanted to reasuure that there are options as far as medication goes. You can also discuss with your vet about the possibility of using a Holistic Vet.My vet recommends anything that DECREASES any medication that can do long term harm. I am blest to hav eher as she has no problems recommending a local holistic vet whom I have used for several years along with my tradtional vet.
    Another thing.. You are NOT ALONE! We are all in the same boat and we can all learn by sharing. PLEASE come back an dlet us know how your fur children are doing.
    There IS hope.. do NOT despair, and do not give up! Start the medication…do it to help control the seizures! THAT is the important thing.. ONce it takes effect yo will breathe easier.

    Ohhh one more thing.. it may take awhile for the medication to become fully effective. IF your fur child has seizures WHILE on th emedication.. continue with it.. it can take up to several weeks for it to fully become effective.It took Kelby almost 2 weeks until the Phenobarbitalt o really kick in.

    PLESAE write and let us know how you all are doing.. and remember you are not alone.


  184. Nik | March 4, 2008 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    Hi Debra!
    Thanks for your response. I’ve definitely heard that cats and dogs with epilepsy can live long and healthy lives, which I am very happy about!
    Dino had another seizure when I got home from work last night. I swear she does it mainly when I’m around as if to say ‘look mommy! I’m sick!’…so we got the medication from our vet and started treatment last night. Our vet is awesome. She really cares about Dino and explained everything clearly to me. Phenobarbital is what she prescribed and did tell me that it could cause liver damage down the road but it’s not 100% and even still, the cat should live a long life. So we are OK with that and hope that we can one day take Dino off the meds and she will stabilize without them.
    We bought Dino these treats called ‘pill poppers’ where you put the pill inside the treat and she LOVES them! She had her second dose this morning and she seemed alert (but she always does and them BAM, seizure). So we hope that we don’t see anymore seizures but are aware that it does take a few days for the meds to kick in. In 10 days the vet wants to do blood work to check her levels, so we’ll do that.
    I’m glad I stumbled upon this site! I was told seizures in cats are rare but I guess it happens to more cats that I thought! I’m glad that Dino feels no pain while having the seizure but it sure pains me to watch her. She literally tightens up and moves in slow motion but that’s the worst of it so far luckily because I’ve read some awful episodes that some cats endure. My only fear is that she will fall off the kneewall on our second level and fall down the stairs because when the seizures hit, she falls off of things and she loves sitting on high things. I wouldn’t want her to fall from that great of a height so we’re going to put double sided tape on the top of the kneewall so she won’t want to sit up there anymore.
    Thanks again and I’ll keep ya posted!

  185. Dylan | March 5, 2008 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    My cat just died and noone will freaking tell me how they or what the serizures look like or what happens he was laying on the ground taking deep breathes for awhile and wouldnt move not even his eyes and then he look like he was dead………….

  186. Kim | March 6, 2008 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    So my Fred is still seizure (convulsion) free since 2-10. He has had seizure activity (rapid eye blinking, ear and tail twitching) the week we first started him on the meds then again after vomiting after taking a pill, then again this week. I started freeking since the meds were working now all of a sudden…… So happens a pill my husband fed him was later spit out. What clever little devils they are. At least it explains why, not that the meds werent working. I just cannot believe how sensitive they are.

  187. Justin | March 6, 2008 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    @Kim: a note about meds: Macy can’t do pills either, so we actually get liquid-form phenobarb, which our local CVS Pharmacy will fill upon request. The liquid (squirted out of a syringe into her mouth) is much easier and saves us a lot of hassle!

    I continue to be amazed how many people find my blog and post about their experiences here — hang in there, eveyone!

  188. Nik | March 6, 2008 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Dylan-I’m sorry to hear about your kitty. Seizures look different for every cat and it really depends on the cat. Mine tends to stiffen up and lose function of her legs and moves in slow motion whereas other cats run around frantically or even convulse like people do with epilepsy. It sounds like your cat had something else wrong with him…

    Kim-we buy treats called ‘Pill Poppers’ if you need to stick with pills. They are soft treats with a hole in the middle to stick the pill inside. Then you pinch the top of the treat to close it up and feed it to you cat. Dino loves them and comes running when I shake the pouch! She has no idea she’s eating medicing!

    Dino is doing very well. It’s day 3 of her treatment (Phenobarbital) and she’s seems great. She just gets a little sleepy after doses but she’s very frisky and still as happy as can be. I hope it stays that way and really hope that her seizures one day don’t require to medicate her. Before we moved into our new house she had 2 that I’ve seen and they were mild with 4 months between them. I think now that we moved and there are construction noises constantly she gets scared and I know fear can induce seizures so hopefully when everything calms down we won’t have to medicate her and her seizures become a rarity again. We have to do the follow up bloodwork next weekend.

    Good luck everyone!

  189. Matt | March 8, 2008 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    Hey everyone! Its encouraging to read so many inputs from people who have gone through with their cats what my girlfriend and I did today. Our cat, Kovu, had what seemed to be a seizure today that lasted about 30 seconds. It was scary and saddening to watch, because you cannot prevent it (exept with Valium) but only secure them from falling from a high distance or hurting themselves during their loss of control. But what was even worst to watch was the post-seizure symptoms that had him acting as if he wasnt ever going to come back to full alertness and body control. In the post-seizure symptoms, they will act confused and disoriented for quite some time. Any seizure, whether frequent or not, should be considered serious for the safety of your cat. We took our kitten to the ER Vet and explained his situation. They suggested we authorize them to run several types of tests (mostly blood) to find the underlying cause. Sometimes the cause, even after tests, will not be apparent, but for us, we learned a great deal about our cat Kovu. His blood tests showed that he was extremely low in his red blood cell count and platelets, and extremely high in his white blood cell count. Also his bone marrow did not appear to be producing new red blood cells. Mature red blood cells only last for about 60 to 70 days in felines and without the production of new ones, once the mature ones expired, this could have been it for our beloved kitty. Red blood cell depletion can lead to many types of problems and symptoms. Fortuneatly, this was discovered and they gave him steroids which help produce more red blood cells and hopefully get him back to health. This trip to the Vet costed us $350.00 which believe me, we weren’t prepared to spend, but we love our cat.
    Thanks guys, your input helps, and I hope mine did too.

    *** Also, keep your eye out for early symptoms (some of which our cat experienced) such as… Lack of appetite, loss of weight, lack of energy, personality changes, diarhea that last for more than 2-3 weeks, blood or mucus in the stool, rapid frequency of urination and cunsumption of water, and staying hidden more than usual (not just in his favorite spot…lol)
    Our cat experinced most of these about a month before his seizure.
    Good luck!

  190. Barbara | March 10, 2008 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    My cat, Ruby, 20 in a few weeks, had what I believe to be a seizure today, probably her first. It really scared me (not to mention her, I think). At first I thought she was trying to chase her tail, because sometimes when she does that she falls over and her head is positioned oddly. But I quickly realized that the all-over shaking, legs stiff, laying on her side and drooling was probably a seizure. It was over in about a minute, and while it was happening I just tried to hold her steady. Afterwards she tried but couldn’t walk and was making very deep, gutteral meows. About 10 minutes later she seemed almost back to normal — walking though unsteadily. I am hesitant to take her to the vet, because they will tell me there’s nothing I should do for her since she’s so old (I had another cat that lived to 20 and went through a similar experience). They may even suggest putting her down. Due to her age and since this was likely her first, I will just see what happens going foward. Thanks to everyone who has posted on this board — it has given me great relief.

  191. Lauren | March 14, 2008 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    Hi, my cat Max is 16 and started to have seizures a month ago. The vet discovered he had an overactive thyroid and put him on anti-thyroid drugs, beta-blockers and something to open up his heart valves. The seizures stopped for two weeks but have now suddenly come back. More blood tests were done and the Vet is ruling out his heart as the cause. He is having these seizures sometimes as often as one every 2 minutes :(

    He’s now been on Epiphen for 1day but they are continuing - can anyone tell me how long it takes to start working? Many thanks

  192. Brigette | March 15, 2008 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    Well I am so glad some other cat lovers have seen what I thought was the worst thing in my life! My poor 11 year old Persian cat Jackson was having a major seizure (being a nurse I knew what was happening right away) We noticed Jackson has been weird with his response to the normal kitty calls. He would twitch and well we actually laughed thinking it was sorta cute until last night he fell from my husbands hands convulsing and jumping like a fish out of water. I could not beleive we triggered that!@ Well he lasted about 25 seconds in the seizure and was post ictal about 2 minutes. I was off to the vet when he suddently snapped out of it. I love him so much and don’t know what to do!!! HELP!!!

  193. Debra | March 17, 2008 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Hi brigete,
    I am Deb and started posting her ein Dec when our 2 year old blind cat kelby started seizing. he was having Grand Mal seizures. I rushed him to the vet, blood work was done.. he was still seizing. He was started on PHENOBARBITAL. THAT is the biggie. If you precious fur child is seizing more then that one time… DOCUMENT EVERYTHING thathappens. Wriet everything down! EVERY OBSERVATION. Every movement Jackson has. How he draws his legs up.. time the seizures.. when do they occur.. is there a pattern to the seizures? We discovered that Kelby has his while he is asleep then they wake him up. It is during his REM sleep that it happens. The journal helped me see a patern in the seizures. i took it to my vet who made copies for his chart. We started him on Liquid phenobarbital. It took about 2 weeks for it to become fully effective. he has been seizure free since Jan.
    ANother thing to ask yourself.. did you recently change using any detergent.. bleaches.. cleansers, detergents etc?
    If your baby has had more then one seizure ask your vet to strat on Phenobarb. You’ll have to tak ehim back in a few weeks for a levels check but it is worth it.

    Most of all.. plesae know that you are NOT ALONE. We are all here in the same boat. PLEASE come back and let us know how you all are doing!


  194. nick | March 19, 2008 at 1:24 am | Permalink

    My cat was 19 when it had the first seizure that I had seen. It was possibly the scariest thing i have ever seen. She was on my bed and all of a sudden she went into and fell off my bed and started doing the rapid shakes, i didn’t know what was going on so i tried to help her and called my mom.
    The seizures went on for another 2 weeks bout one every 2 or 3 days. I felt so bad for her. We had to put her to sleep because her kidneys failed. That was about 9 months ago. It was the saddest day of my life, this doesn’t sound good but it was probably worse then when my grandpa died. I guess it is just because I interacted with her everday and I knew that my grandpa was going to die soon because he had been battling cancer for a long time.

    Anyways that was a long comment, hopefully all of you don’t have to go through what I did.


  195. Nik | March 19, 2008 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Sorry to hear about your kitty Nick. She must have had a good life to live to 19 so just remember the good times.

    Dino is doing very well since being on Phenobarbital. No seizures and she’s reacting to the meds well. Her blood levels were normal so everything seems to be going well.

    Hang in there everyone, and remember-as soon as they have more than 1 seizure, take them to the vet immediately.

  196. Debra | March 19, 2008 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Dear Nick and Nik,
    I am so sorry about your loss… and I hope that the rest of us do not have to resort to what you had to do. I am so sorry.
    Nik.. I am SO HAPPY that the Phenobarbital is working for your fur child! Kelby has been on it since Dec.. and it took about 2 weeks for it to become fully efective. He has been seizure free since the middle of Jan!
    Nik is absolutely right more then ONE siezure PLEASE take your fur child to the vet! PLEASE.
    Let’s keep talking!


  197. Nik | March 20, 2008 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    Thanks Deb. I am so happy too and she actually hasn’t had any seizure activity since we started her on the Phenobarbital so it kicked in faster than we thought. She’s still frisky as ever but I still fear that she’ll have a seizure since it’s normal for cats to have the odd one even on the meds.

    The only challenge I find is that when we have to travel later this year, we’ll have to make sure that we have friends and family visit her every day, twice a day, to administer her meds and that will be tough. I’ll worry about her when I’m away but luckily I don’t travel much at all, it’s just this year for my upcoming honeymoon.

    Good luck everyone!

  198. Debra | March 21, 2008 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    Hi Nik!
    How I know what you mean about going away… our Kitty sitter is also a vet tech. She has many cats of her own and loves them. I know that if anything would happen Debbie would take any one of our babies to our vet an dthey would be well taken care of. Ask your vet if any of his staff also pet sits. I wouldn’t leave my fur children with anyone but Debbie. She comes by 2x day, feeds, water, scoops the boxes an dplays with all of the kids. She also writes down everything and she has all of our cell numbers in case she needs me. My vet is the best in the world, and I have her number as well as her e mail address. Ask your vet if any of the techs pet sit!
    I am so happy that your baby is responding well to the phenobarb! I KNOW what a relief it is!
    Keep posting!


  199. Gretchen | April 1, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    Dear Friends.
    My 16-year-old 16-pounder, Bodoni, began having seizures about 6 years ago. After the second one and a lot of blood test, we agreed to an MRI, which showed nothing. The vet put him on Pheno (one 1.5 mg pill per day), which reduced the frequency to 4-5 observed per year (he probably had more). In all but one observed instance, Bo was in a deep sleep when the seizure began. I learned simply to hold him gently so that he would not run about blindly when he started to regain consciousness. After the jerking stopped, he would slowly wake up, start purring, and usually look for food. I agree strongly with Debra that each episode must be recorded; I did not do that regularly, and now I truly regret not having that information. Last year, the seizures became more frequent, every six weeks or so, and the vet increased the Pheno to 1 1/2 pills per day (one in the morning, and 1/2 in the evening). (We also give him 1/4 of a triple-strength glucosamine pill (crushed) with each feeding, which really seemed to perk him up over the last two years.) Last Wednesday my husband found Bo in his litter box, unable to move. The vet thought he had had a seizure or stroke and would recover in a few days. A week later, Bo is comfortable–he eats and purrs and poops–but he still cannot do more than crawl a bit. The vet thinks there is still some hope for partial recovery because he still has sensation in his legs. I would be grateful to hear from anyone who has been in this situation.

  200. Nik | April 2, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Hi Gretchen,

    So sorry about your kitty! It’s so hard to watch, eh?

    I hope your kitty regains some mobility…I don’t even want to think about these things happening to my kitties down the road.

    Dino is fine. I haven’t seen any seizure activity since she’s started Phenobarbital but we’re not home every second so…I pray she’ll be fine and the meds continue to work so well.

  201. Kim | April 2, 2008 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Yes knock on wood. Fred had been doing good on the meds also. He is a VERY big pita when it comes to the pill. We have tried everything!! He isnt bad to get it in his mouth but he just sits there then and will not swallow. I also worry about going on vacation, i need to ask the vet if anyone there pet sits.

  202. Kim | April 3, 2008 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    I guess open mouth insert foot. He was sleeping an the sofa and had another bad seizure. It lasted 4 min. I know that the vet said that he could possibly have break through seizures but i was just hoping that he was diong so good……

  203. Nik | April 4, 2008 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    Have you tried a treat called Pill Poppers for your kitty? All you do is put the pill inside the treat and feed it to your kitty. Dino LOVES them and comes running when it’s pill time and she has no clue the pill is inside.
    Sorry to hear about the latest episode. So far, knock wood, I haven’t seen Dino have a seizure while on her meds unless she’s had some while we’re at work. But I’m hopeful that she’ll stay seizure-free.

  204. Beth | April 4, 2008 at 9:30 pm | Permalink


    My Sam hates to take pills and he is a big guy, so he can really struggle. Luckily my vet knew of a pharmacy that does drug compounding – they mix the medicine into a cat treat. Very useful if your cat is the sort that can detect when a pill is crushed into food or stuck in a treat. Believe me, it is sooo much easier to just give him a treat than to struggle with pills every day.

    In Sam’s case, it’s his heart medicine he’s getting (altenolol), he’s not on epilepsy meds, so you’ll need to check to see if your drug can be compounded.

    If you can’t find a pharmacy that compounds near you, the mail order place that I use is

    Medicine Shoppe
    66 West Avenue
    Canandaigua, NY 14424
    Toll Free: 1-800-396-9970

    This pharm will even send you flavor samples of the treat (tuna, chicken, etc), so that you can order the flavor your cat likes best. Sam recommends tuna!

  205. Debra | April 6, 2008 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Morning all,
    Hi Kim and Nik. Gretchen.. I am so sorry that your babies are still strugling with the seizures. We have a pharmacy here in Va. that is a compunded pharmacist. It is called Dan Wellness Pharmacy, in STafford , VA. Kelby will be needing another refill of the Phenobarbital soon and I am going to transfer his scritp to Dan’s. He is blind and hates getting meds.. for us the Liquid Phenobarb is easier to give him. I’ll ask Dan if he can make up a fishy or chicken flavor for Kelby.
    Gretchen.. how is your Boudini doing?
    I keep my note book handy just in case Kelby has another siezure.. so far we have been ok since Jan.
    Keep your journals handy so afterward you can write down everything.. how long they last an dhow long it takes for your fur child to come back out of it.
    Remember if a seizure lasts longer then 5 minutes take them to a vet.. their temperature rises quickly and can cause brain damage. My vet suggested that we keep a baby rectal thermometer handy too. I got mine at Wal-Mart in the baby Dept.. It has a quick read out of 5 seconds. Use a little vaseline or lubricant.. nut if the seizure is lone in duration definitely take the temperature.

    PLEASE keep in touch an dknow that you are NOT alone. We are all here in the same boat.


  206. Jennifer R | April 6, 2008 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    My 9 year old female cat (spayed) passed away the other day very suddenly. She was sleeping on the couch like she always did, then she jerked up like she was having a spasm or convulsion, feel over sideways and was all stiff. I ran over to her to help her and it didn”t seem like she could breath or move but she was making a strange groaning noise. I tried to give her a breath and when I did she started to make a choking noise and foam was coming out of her mouth. She died a second later. I was so distraught and since it happened at 10pm I couldn”t bring her to my normal vet. I ended up taking her body to an emergency vet clinic for cremation. I never thought to ask for a post mortem check up. I”m just beside myself wondering what went wrong. I brought her to the vet less than a year ago. The doctor said she was a little over weight and had bad teeth but was other wise healthy. She was eating and drinking normally and was her usual friendly self. Any ideas as to what happened to her?

  207. Nik | April 7, 2008 at 8:01 am | Permalink

    Hi Jennifer,

    Wow…what a sad story. Sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine going through that with any of my cats so I really feel for you.

    I’m NO expert but it sounds like she had a brain tumour that resulted in a seizure or something. It definitely sounds like she had a seizure but it was so violent that something serious must have triggered it. Maybe a blood clot errupted in the brain or something?

    Must be terrible to have witnessed that, and so suddenly. I experienced something like that but it was when my cat got hit by a car, and I was traumatized for a very long time.

    Take care,

  208. Kim | April 7, 2008 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Thanks for all your feedback. When we started giving him meds we were just putting the pill in a moist treat. I think we may have turned him off treats cause he wont eat them. We have just been giving him the pill but when ever we try treats he comes running but when dumped looks at me like “what are u trying to pull now” i was considering the liquid form but figured i would have to pin him down to shoot that in his mouth also so what is the diference it would be a fight either way.

  209. Susan | April 12, 2008 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    I am so glad I found this site! My 18-20 year old cat had a very small 10 second seizure a few nights ago, which I wasn’t sure was even a seizure…and then a 1-2 minute seizure today that scared me to death. I called her vet and they could not see her today and suggested an ER. To my knowledge these are her first and after reading this I’m glad I didn’t jump in the car and rush her to the ER. I felt so bad, and she was obviously traumatized so I didn’t want to add to her stress by putting her in a box and then a car ride. I held her while she shook, her bladder emptied, saliva flying and then she was stiff and silent with dilated pupils. After about 10 minutes she found her voice but only deep, strange meows. She rested for about 20 minutes and then slowly became like herself. She finally ate a little about an hour later but she is a still a bit disorientated and wobbly. She had a bladder infection a month ago, and was on antibiotics for 4 weeks. Her followup blood work was done about a week ago, after the course of antibiotics and came back just fine. I do not believe there are any poisons for her to get into, but I did give her Frontline flea meds last week. I’m taking her in Monday to her regular vet and we’ll see what they say.

  210. Sue | April 16, 2008 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Hey everyone:

    Chiming in to say hello and sing the praises of pheno for the seizures. We had such trepidation before giving it to Lily. She is doing really well. We started her out on 1/16 of the prescribed amount and then 1/14 and now 1/12th. She only weighs about 9 pounds and is doing well getting onto the stuff slowly over 2 months. She is not acting as scared anymore and sleeps better. The meds have increased her appetite and thirst - so I keep a wide brimmed cup on my bedside table. She jumps up and/or sips water from it during the night (off our bed) which means she doesn’t have to go to her regular watering hole in the kitchen. The things we do for our little fur children.

    Best wishes,


  211. Nik | April 17, 2008 at 5:32 pm | Permalink


    Yes, Phenobarbital works wonders for our kitty and I’m wondering what would happen if we reduced the dose. We give Dino 1/2 a pill, 2 times a day…

    Also, does anyone know the long term effects Pheno has on cats who take the pill daily? I am very scared that she can die from this medication down the road…I heard it can cause liver failure?!

    Any info helps. Thanks!

  212. Gretchen | April 17, 2008 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Dear Friends,
    I’m reporting again about Bodoni in the hope that our experiences might be useful to others. We now believe that he must have suffered some kind of trauma during a seizure. After three weeks, he still cannot stand up. But his limbs are stronger, and he can crawl across our floors and even negotiate stairs when he wants to. We were keeping him in a large dog cage on work days so that he could not get into trouble and so that his pee and poop would be confined. When he’s on his own, however, he’s proved to be pretty good about using the wee wee pads that we place next to his litter box (these are the Four Paws adult dog pads available at Petco). He actually crawls out of the cardboard bed that my husband made for him (which we line with wee wee pad and pillowcases) and makes his way a few feet to the pad. So we are now experimenting with leaving him out of the cage while we are at work. He still cannot clean himself very well; I occasionally rub him with a wet towel; the vet recommended this over dry bath products. In sum, I never thought I would be living with a disabled cat, but the additional care has become part of our daily routine. So long as he seems content we will go on.

  213. Debra | April 20, 2008 at 4:39 am | Permalink

    Dear Gretchen and friends,
    Your post is heart wrenching. Has your vet determined what kind of injury your fur child has sustained and if he will recover the use of his legs? What about taking him to see a neurologist?
    To give you some encouragement on how well your fur child can adjust…..
    I volunteer for a large no kill animal sanctuary her ein Va. One of the cats is the spokes kitty for the physically challeneged cats. Vinny had been hit bya car. HIe previous owners decided not to proceed with any corrective surgery and wanted him killed. Th evet called the director and he is fine and happy. His Right hind leg is amputated, his left hind leg is useless and he has no bladder or bowel control… but Gretchen.. this is the happiset little fur child you have ever seen. Vinny is faster then greased lighting. He drags his left hind leg and can out run most of us when he sees something he wants. When he wraps his paws around your neck and nuzzles you.. it is the most wonderful feeling in the world. He was tossed out like garbage but the refuge loves and adores him… he is our ambassador of good will and hope. Your fur child may have some physical limitations but as long as he is happy and can around and he knows you love him then love him and cherish each day you have withhim.
    Our kelby was goign to be killed at a shelter bec he was owner surrendered and is blind.. deemed unfit to be adopted. he was going to the refuge but I shanghaied him and brought him home…he is totally blind and started seizing in Dec… he hasbeen on liquid phenobarbital since then and has been seizure free since Jan. We are hoping to perhaps eventually wean Kelby off and see what happens. I will take him back in for another levels check and se what happens. PLEASE don’t give up on your fur child… remember our Refuge’s Vinny.. he is a happy little boy and is the most loving child ever made…he is agift to all of us as I know your precious fur child is to you. PLEASE keep us posted on him.


  214. Debra | April 20, 2008 at 4:42 am | Permalink

    Did you take your little girl tot he vet? What did they say? Has she had any more seizures?
    PLESAE keep us updated on her.


  215. Gretchen | April 21, 2008 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Dear Deb,
    I want to assure you that my husband and I would never abandon Bodoni just because he cannot walk. But we cannot afford expensive tests that may tell us nothing, particularly when there is no obvious site of trauma. I do think he’s getting stronger and may eventually walk again. In the meantime, he seems comfortable and content, and we keep him near us as much as possible when we are home. He’s got a champion purr and knows how to use it. Thanks for your support, and good luck with Kelby.

  216. Debra | April 21, 2008 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    I hope I didn’t infer that you would abandon. I think the point I wanted to make with Vinny is that although seriously physically challenged he is a happy kitty boy and is a wonderful and positive influence to all people and animals that he meets.
    PLEASE forgive me if you thought anything to the contrary.

  217. Sue | May 8, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Hey Everyone:

    Just chiming in to say hello. Lily is doing well. We have slowly increased her dosage of Pheno. Interesting to see that some of you purchased liquid pheno from CVS pharmacy. Will look into that as it is tough to half and quarter the small pills. Those of you who are new to using this drug, know that they are extra thirsty and hungry. I keep water on my bedside table for her and she drinks it all night long. The long term effects of Pheno? Not bad at all compared to the other anti-convulsant drugs which can cause liver and lung issues. In the big scheme of choices, Phenobarbital is the best working with the least amount of side effects. Just keep in tune with your cat and she will let you know if she needs more or less.

    Best wishes,


  218. Nikki Bougadis | May 8, 2008 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    Hi Sue,

    That was a great update!

    Dino is doing very well on Pheno too. I’m thinking we can maybe reduce her dose from a half pill twice a day to a quarter of a pill twice a day and see what happens.

    You mention that Pheno’s side effects aren’t as serious as some other meds can be. I tried to research this but don’t really get anywhere…what exactly are the long term side effects of Pheno? Does anyone know?

  219. Kim | May 9, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    I was also wondering what the long term effects of Pheno was…since Fred was so young when he was started. We actually had to up his dose to a whole pill 2x a day. He had 2 seizures in 2 week period and the vet did bw and found his levels to be very low. I think he has given up fighting the whole pill thing. I guess he gave one last effect but since we give it to him either way figured it would be easier jut to take it.

  220. Teresa | May 10, 2008 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    My 16 1/2 year old cat just had her first seizure a few hours ago. She stopped eating last Sunday and was not her usual self so we took her to the vet on Monday. All tests came back fine except for a slightly elevated thyroid. She was given Periactin for her appetite, Prednisolone for vomiting and Tapazole for hyperthyroidism. All three medications are in a transdermal form and are rubbed in the ear instead of given orally. We have been feeding her with a medicine syringe for the last 4 day. Today she finally started eating again and acting herself. She sleeps at the foot of our bed. My husband was going to bed and started petting her. She started having a seizure and then walking in a circle. The whole thing lasted about ten minutes before she was herself again. We were all so happy and thankful that she was on the road to recovery and then she had her first seizure. Does anyone know if the medications could have caused this?

  221. Teresa | May 13, 2008 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Our cat has completely recovered and has not had another seizure. Our vet said to take her off the Periactin. Although she never heard of a cat having seizures using Periactin, a side effect for humans is convulsions. The human medication also states it should not be given to older or hyperthyroid patients. She is 16 1/2 and has hyperthyroidism.

  222. debra | May 14, 2008 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    hello I love your site, I adopted my 4 years old white persian 1 half year ago and he had his first seizure last oct them two with three days just last week his back legs tence up with his eyes open looking frighten and a slight twisting of his lower part of his body, then he looks at me like he does not know me for about three mins. He also has a urinary problems so i worry about meds for him my funds are limited what to do? thanks

  223. Tiffany | May 20, 2008 at 5:59 am | Permalink

    I just want to say that I’m so glad I found this site. My cat (Riley, 7 yrs) has had 3 seizures in the past 3 months. The first two were minor and I didn’t really know what they were. They scared me but lasted so little time that I didn’t think to call the vet. Plus I was playing with him with his favorite toy so i thought it was the excitement from that. But last Friday (May 16th) he had a seizure while just laying there. it was much worse and scared the $%^& out of me. I took him immediately to the vet where they did blood tests that came out normal. The vet said that since there have been 3 in a relatively short amount of time, that i should put him on phenobarbital. I’m reluctant to put him on something for the rest of his life but I will do it because I don’t want these seizures to get worse. I’m just worried now that it won’t work and I’ll later find out he has a tumor. :( I’m keeping my fingers crossed. But again, I’m so glad I found this site. I can’t read all 200 postings but read a lot of them. I just looked at Riley and said “See…’re not alone and I’m not either.” Thank you for all the comments and the sharing.

  224. Debra | May 27, 2008 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    Hi Tiffany,
    We put our Kelby on Phenobarbital in January with NO side effects. He has been seizure free since January. I wouldn’t hesitate using the phenobarbital.. it can always be increased OR decreased. When I take Kelby in I am goign to ask my vet about the possibilty of gradualy taking him off. DO NOT take your cats off the pheno all at once. THAT can cause SERIOUS physical problems.. If your vet says it’s ok to decrease the dose and gradually take your fur child off.. it has to be done with specific instructiosn from your vet. Do NOT do it yourself…only with your vet’s instructions.
    PLEASE stay in touch!!

  225. Nik | May 27, 2008 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Hi Tiffany,

    We also are having good luck with Phenobarbital. Dino has been taking it since the beginning of March with no side effects or seizures. We just tested her blood levels to make sure all was well and she is in the low level of Normal, exactly where they want to see cats. This made me feel better.
    However, I was saddend to hear that since Dino’s seizure’s started young and started to worsen with time she most likely will have to stay on the meds for life. We will try to see what happens by weaning her off them in October but expect the seizures to start again. If they don’t that would be a miracle.
    I was also sad to hear that most likely Dino will have liver issues down the road since she would be on Pheno for so long and a side effect is liver damage (long term). I really hope she can overcome that or that we won’t have those issues but time will tell. She’s only 1.5 years old so let’s not think about that stuff yet (should be a long ways away!!)! I am hoping that we wean her off of them and there are no seizures but we’ll see…kind of unlikely.

  226. Rockygircat | June 11, 2008 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    On May 5 2008 Rockygirlcat fell out of bed and had a grand mal seizure. She later started having partial seizures where she would sneeze, foam at the mouth, make biting movements with her mouth, without losing consciousness. Her pupils would get dilated and she would not be disoriented. She was having these every 2 hours or so. We took her to the Vet who put her on Valium, but after two days she was still having 8-10 seizures, so we went back to another Vet at the clinic who put her on Phenobarbital. Within 3 days her partial seizures stopped. She never did have another grand mal one again. Rockygirl is a 5 year old cat with no known medical problems. She has some side effects from the Phenobarbital in that she is less coordinated and slips and falls which never used to happen before. I have a call in to the Vet to get her blood levels for her Phenobarbital to see if they are in the high range. Rockygirl is only 8 pounds. My question is how long should she be seizure free before we try to wean her off the phenobarbital. I hate to have her on it for life if she doesn’t need it. My Vet doesn’t come back from vacation until June 25th. Any thoughts on this? We would appreciate it. We are so glad we found you all.
    Aloha from Hawaii,

  227. Rockygircat | June 11, 2008 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    Sorry, correction, Rockygirlcat would almost always get disoriented during partial seizures except the very very short ones.

  228. Debra | June 15, 2008 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Hi teresa,
    My cat KELBY started seizing in December. We took him tour vet and was put on Phenobarbital. At first we were giving him 2cc Phenobabital 2x day… Kelby is a little hell cat. He is totally blind and we adopte dhim a year ago. He is my husband’s little boy cat boy.. so my gicing him the phenobarb alone was literally a life/death issue.. MINE! :-) He has been on the phenobarb ONCE a day for the past few months and has been FINE. Kelby is only three. I am taking him back to our vet very soon and will ask her if we can start to slowly wean him from this and see what happens. You cannot take cats off Phenobarbital cold turkey. It has to be done gradually and in decreased amounts over a period of time. Don’t do this on your own.. only with your vet’s guidance.
    Blessings be with you and your precious little fur child.

  229. Kim | June 24, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone else notice a diference in your cats personality since the phenobarbital?? Other than the clumsiness of first being on it. My Fred i dont know…. Sometimes you look at him and you wouldnt know anything was wrong or different about him and other times i swear all you have to do is look at him and he has a for lack of a better word sick look. Like tired, depressed look?? Is that possible in a cat?

  230. Debra | June 28, 2008 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Hi Kim,
    It took Kelby a few days to become used to the phenobarbital but now.. we can’t tell any difference at all He races and runs all over the house with his fur brothers and sisters. You would never know he was blind the way he runs.
    He hates getting the phenobarb but it has helped him so much! He is his old self.
    If you think your baby is still not quite right I would take him back for another check up.


  231. Jessica | June 29, 2008 at 4:47 am | Permalink

    I’m really hoping someone is on and reading this right now. We came home from a party at about 9pm tonight to find my 16yo Tabrah walking drunk with her head curled like she was walking with her chin to her neck. Her eyes are halfway dialated and her ears are postured straight up and close together and twitching slighty. She’s gotten up several times to walk around and change positions and to go to the litter pan to poop and to eat a bit of wet food and drink some water. She’s a bit dehydrated which I was making plans to call my vet about doing some subcu fluids. Anyways, I look at her and think seizure but the two e vets here are horrid and I wouldn’t go to them ever. So I turned to the internet and found this site. We’re not in a good financial situation right now as we are still paying over 15k from our dog who was sick last year. I’m concerned because she’s been this way since coming home and that was over an hour and half ago. I don’t know if this is the siezure or if this is the after effects. Any help right now would be appreciated.

  232. Debra | June 30, 2008 at 5:06 am | Permalink

    Ohhh Jessica,
    I am so sorry to read about your fur child. If you can PLEASE write down everything that you have seen since you have gotten home tonight. It is VERY important as this will help your regular vet make a diagnosis. Call your regular vet NOW and leave a message asking for an appointment first thing in the mornging. You will need blood work to be done. I cannot stress enough how important it is for you to keep a WRITTEN description of exactly your fur child is doing etc. how she walks… holds her head, holds her head, legs etc. and for long. ALSO keep an eye on her if she has another seizure. If she does…. stay with her…she may lose her bladder or bowels… just talk softly to her….it’s scary for you but they don’t remember it. TIME IT… TIME how long she has the seizure and how long it takes her to recover and what she does when she comes out of it. WRITE DOWN everything you observe.

    PLEASE let me know how sh eis an dknow I will pray for her and I’ll check back tomorrow.


  233. Jessica | June 30, 2008 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for responding Deb. We were able to get her to the vet early this morning. We did fluids, blood pull, and of course exam. She seems to be fine again today, though it took her about 2 days to get there. Judging from everything I told them we believe it was a seizure. We think this was the first one as she took so long to recover I doubt we would have missed that before. She’s always had a thyroid problem but we can’t treat her for it because she doesn’t weigh enough to get the meds. Now her kidneys and liver are in terrible shape, she’s anemic and her potassium level is barely there, which is what was causing her to crane her neck. We gave her fluid while we were there and they sent me home with the bag and needles so I can do it if need be again. She should technically have meds for her liver and kidney problem, BUT if we treat her liver it will harm her kidneys and if we treat her kidneys it will harm her liver, soooo we’re not doing anything medication wise. They are however also a homeopathic vet so we are giving her an herbal remedy along with a potassium oral gel. I’m also going to start her on the same supplemets my dog is on for her issues. She will be getting colostrum and some other things as well. They felt a hard mass in her intestines but without testing we won’t know what it is. We decided that there’s no point to testing because at her age and with her problems she wouldn’t be able to be treated anyway. She’s not in any pain from it at the moment so we will monitor her. If she starts to have more then one seizure a month we will opt to put her to sleep since she took so long to recover from this one and because her body just would not be able to handle the treatment. We’re just hoping to keep her feeling her best until her time comes. Thanks again for your response!

  234. Debra | July 1, 2008 at 3:30 am | Permalink

    Oh Jessica,
    I am so sorry your baby girl has so many issues. We have a calico named Shadow that is 18, and in pretty good health. He rhearing is going and drinks alot of water… so I am thinking of several things it could be. She eats well and still is frisky. I’ll b etaking her in to the vet too.
    We also have an incredible holistic vet that one of fur children saw regularly for chiropractic and acupuncture. He crossed over last July. He gave NO SIGNS at all… he started to pant like a dog.. I rushed him in and within 2 hours my beloved son was gone.
    But Kelby … our blind and seizure fur child is ornery as ever. He is young.. JUST turned 3. We’ll be taking him in soon to ask about the possibility of trying to wean him off the phenobarbital to see how he does. Usually seizures happen in older cats… Kelby was 2 1/2.. but since we adopte dhim.. we have NO IDEA what his home life wa slike before. He was owner surrendered….we don’t know if he was abused, neglected, beaten etc. ALL of our fur children have physical and or emotional or both issues. That’s why we adopt them We take the ones no one else wants.
    Antway.. Kelby is a hellion now. He owns my husband. He may be blind.. but the child knows where my husband is at all times….he is such a delight. I adore this precious child that was thrown away. He is absolutely rotten to the core.. and is too cute fo rhis own good. He has NO EYES… but I can only imagine how over the moon drop dead cute he’d be if he did. He “looks” at us and seems to see us.. tilts his head.. oh my he is too precious. The pheno is helping him tremendously. he’s been seizure free since January!
    PLEASE keep in touch … I will pray for you and your precious little girl.

  235. Jessica | July 1, 2008 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Deb, I’m sorry your little ones have had a horrible life before you. Though they are most definitely in a wonderful home now. I’m one to take in rescues too so I know how it goes. Tabrah was definitely perkier this morning though she can’t stand the potassium gel (highly palatable my tush) I mix in it with her food now because the stuff is so nasty and she really does need it. I’m hoping with the supplements that we can get her liver and kidney levels to as near to normal as possible. I have no doubt that she’s got major liver and kidney damage as she’s been through a lot in her life. She’s a viscious eater and will scarf down anything in her path if she thinks it’s edible. We’ve had some emergency visits because she’s eaten pills straight from the counter (now really, what cat willingly takes pills?!) It was ACE the tranquilizer that I had given her a 1/4 of before bringing her to get groomed. I turned to get the pill bottle and when I turned back the rest of the pill was gone. That was very scary for a while as she is only 4lbs and took enough for a 40lb dog. She’s gotten into a lot of hairy situations and lord only knows what bad things she’s eaten. She also has chronic UTI infections which we keep a stash of clavamox on hand for plus cosequin. My hubby never imagined how insane I am about our pets. Thank you for your support, you and your fur babies are in my thoughts and prayers as well.

  236. Debra | July 7, 2008 at 3:37 am | Permalink

    Hi Jessica,
    How is Tabrah doing now? Is she feeling any better? Has she had any more seizures? What does your baby look like? Is she a gray tabby.. tuxedo.. calico.. orange/white taby?

    Kelby is a blk and white tuxedo. He gets around so well that we almost don’t even think that he is totally blind. I tell him all the time that h eis so adorable he should be illegal. I think we have the rainbow. We have tuxedos.. orange and white tabbies.. calico.. gray and black tabby…all black… we have everybody. ALL are as different as a human’s personalities.
    I wonder if thee is a way we can p[ost pictures of our fur children that have seizures so we would have their pictures in front of us when we read about them.


  237. Noelle | July 23, 2008 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    My Willow is 17 years old and a cancer survivor. Almost 4 years ago he was diagnosed with intestinal lymphoma and given 4-6 months to live. He was put on a oral dose of a chemotherapy medicine, prednisone and an immunity booster which happens to be a lower dosage of the over the counter med “cold fx.”

    Since February he has been gradually losing weight without losing any of his spirit. I have been keeping an eye on him, but with all he’s been through (surgeries, blood tests, et al) I don’t want to put him through a bunch of tests for nothing like some of the posters above.

    Anyway, 2 weeks ago he had a seizure. He followed me in the kitchen for his breakfast and I was cleaning the bowl I heard what sounded like a sneeze behind me. He scooted backwards like something frightened him and then lay down and had his seizure. I had no idea what was happening and thought he was dying. When the seizure was over, I guess my “pet-ernal” instinct kicked in and I scooped him up in my arms (both of us completely covered in urine) 10 minutes later he struggled to get down and went straight for his food dish. I phone my vet, who is an angel, and of course she was on vacation. We went to see the “substitute” vet who said that it could be any number of things from a random seizure to the start of something like a brain tumor. She said he was dehydrated and would like to give him fluids, but at this stage would not run any tests unless it happened again. (Aren’t they fantastic at this clinic where they don’t just want your money!?)

    I have noticed a decline in his health since the seizure. He seems even smaller, is always thirsty and stumbles more than usual. I fear it is only a matter of time for my Willow and have asked him to please wait for his vet Karin to come home from vacation (2 days from now) He is still jumping up in the window and on the couch and eating a little. I will spend a little extra to have Karin take a look, but she has promised to come to our house and has given me her home number which is stuck to the fridge. You see, Willow was her first successful cancer treatment. She adores him and uses him as an example to others who would rather put their pet down than spend the $30 a month it would cost to possibly save them.

    Willow is like my first child. He was born in Ireland where I went to school and travelled back with me to Los Angeles and finally to Montreal where we now reside. He had a rough start as he was beaten and abandoned by his first owner and I rescued him at approx. 5 months old. Through everything, he is the most social cat I know. I call him “Spot” as a nickname as he is truly like a dog. Waiting for me outside the bathroom, greeting me when I come home from work, begging on the hind legs. Though I know it’s part of life, the thought of him passing away tears me up inside.

    Thank you all so much for this website. It is a comfort to read other stories and know I’m not alone. To those of you who are going through your own heartache, my thoughts go out to you.

    Thanks for letting me share Willow’s story.


  238. Debra | July 24, 2008 at 4:54 am | Permalink

    Dear Noelle,
    Your Willow sounds like he is onevery special little man… who stole his Momma’s heart at first sight. Blessings be with you for rescuing him and loving him no matter what. Thank you for not giving up on him when alot of others would have taken the easy way out. he is truly your fur son and I know loves you as much as you love him.
    I am hoping that his seizuzre was a one time episode. If I could make a suggestion. Document his first seizre. Write down everything you remember. The time of the seizure.. the duration. How long ittook him to come out of it, what he did DURING the seizure, his body position during it, did he lose bladder, bowel functions and did he foam at the mouth. How long did the seizure last?
    Write down EVERYTHING you remember.. when your vet gets back show her what you wrote down. If Willow has another seizure write it all down again. PLEASE do this for Willow. It will help your vet diagnose Willow.

    Please know that we are all here for you and please keep in touch.

    Blessings be with you and your precious little boy.


  239. Kim | July 24, 2008 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    My little Fred is back to having seizures. He had 2 on saturday and 1 monday night. We are upping his meds again! He will be 22.5 mg 2x a day. I was looking back at all the posting and realized how high this seems. His seizures arent lasting as long and he appears to “wake up” and be completly normal afterwards but still scary as hell to watch. I am just hoping we find a dosage that helps him. He is such a sweet and adorable little guy. I still see no real pattern other than they happen when he sleeps.

  240. Kim | August 13, 2008 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    And now he was on the 22mg 2x a day for 2 weeks and bam 2 more. Had 1 sunday and 1 last night. I am so scared for my little guy. I wish i knew how to help him. He goes to the vet today for a pheno level.

  241. Melissa | August 14, 2008 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    My cat Squeak is 17.5, and had his first seizure about 6 months ago. I didn’t see it, but my husband said he fell off the ottoman, appeared to be unable to get up, struggled and panted, and was very weak on one side. Eventually he was able to walk, but we took him to the ER. Tests showed there was nothing wrong. Took him to our vet and again, there seemed to be nothing wrong.

    Last month (5 months after the first seizure) he had another: same symptoms. Again, our vet said it was probably a blip on the radar screen, and advised us to just watch and observe.

    Yesterday he had a grand mal seizure right in front of me: he leaped off the couch, began running in circles, then fell on his right side and began thrashing violently. His head jerked repeatedly to the left, and his eyes were enormously dilated. His mouth was open wide but was not crying, panting or drooling. He did not lose control of his bladder of bowels. This all lasted about 2-3 minutes while I held him gently on the floor and spoke quietly to him. Afterward he seemed dazed and disoriented.

    I raced him to the vet, had a full blood workup done, and this morning the vet said there seemed to be nothing to indicate a metabolic disorder or anything organic that would cause seizures. Meanwhile, Squeak seems normal and alert.

    At this point I am planning to take a wait-and-see attitude rather than starting him on drugs. If he has another seizure in the next month, we’ll re-evaluate. Thanks to everybody for providing so much anecdotal info and for passing on your experiences.

  242. Kim | September 10, 2008 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Am I the only one that has not had luck with the Phenobarb. Fred is still have seizures. Thankfully not full blown grand mal, he is only having partial. Which means his ear pins back his neck turns to one side and he for lack of a better word ticks. He does this maybe 3-5 times then is fine. The vet was happy with his pheno level and said we just had to wait. Then 2 saturdays ago all he did was have these partial seizures every time he tried to go to sleep a total of 6 in a 7 hours. The vet put him on potassium bromide in addition to the pheno. This is a compounded liquid(which he does not particularly like). Everything i have read about this states it can take up to 2 months to become effective. In the mean time he is having side effects like when he started the phenobarb. Cat Fancy Magazine has an article in their October issue about cat epilesy. I just want my little guy to be ok.

  243. Debra | September 16, 2008 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    How is your little man doing now? CAn you see a difference with the potassium bromide?
    I am so sorry I haven’t been on much. Our Kelby is doing great. I am so blest that the pheno is working for him.
    Have you thought about using a holistic vet in conjunction with your tradtional vet?

    PLEASE keep us posted on how your little one is doing.


  244. Kim | September 16, 2008 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Better in the respect of his seizures but acting very uncorrdinated and drukin with the potassium. Vet states not unusual and since the potassium has a long half life takes longer to become aclimated to it also. I had read your other posts about the holistic. How do you go about finding one? I live in the Lehigh Valley.

  245. Laura Jamieson | September 16, 2008 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    My Schmoo had her first seizure in July and we put her on PB. She hasn’t had one since. I just hope that we don’t have to up the dosage and it ruins her liver. She acted real weird and very chatty for a few hours. Then we went to sleep on the couch for about 1/2 hour, then she got up circled the couch and fell off into the usual looking seizure that lasted about 2 minutes. She then got up and bolted, not sure if she could see anything because she bounced off all the furniture and tried to stuff herself under the computer armoire. We rushed her to the emergency vet and she had 2 more seizures within 24 hours, that’s why we put her on the PB.

    As of today all is well, for now. She’s not the same cat, though, but I let her go outside and she’s not chatty anymore (which was one of her endearing qualities). She just turned 6 years old last week.


  246. charlotte | October 9, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Hi there, i was just woken up to the sounds of my ten year old black persian making a really strange meowing sound.
    He is new to me, recently adopted and I am pretty sure he had a seizure. I dont want to take him to the vet hospital because they will prob send me home and tell me to go get a vet or watch him or whatever but I would like to know if there are any more natural ways of helping a cat out that is having seizures, how many is too many. and any info anyone can offer on helping the cat beside taking it to the vet, which i will do anyway.

  247. Susan Lovingood | October 23, 2008 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    My 13 year old cat just started having what we think are seizures. She will start to stratch her back with her back foot then she’ll start stratching uncontrollably which causes her to go into a seizure. She does not lose consciousness, just shakes violently for about 10-15 seconds then it passes. We took her to the vet and he put her on phenobarbitol 2x a day which seems to keep the seizures under control. But she will still start to scratch violently and start to have a seizure but it does not materialize. Has anyone had this happen to their cat?

  248. Nurjan Kozanli | November 6, 2008 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    My precious 15+ year old cat, Migou, had a violent seizure yesterday, twisting and contorting while crying loudly for about 90 seconds (although it is hard to know exactly how long because time gets distorted in such a situation). Looking back on her medical history I realize that she has had occasional episodes of much milder seizures, that didn’t seem seizure-like at the time, over the past several years. This seizure was very violent and frightening. I rushed her to my vet who ran blood tests and took an x-ray. It turns out that she has a tumor in her chest that is pressing on her trachea (making an occasional soft cough) and, based on that evidence he feels that it is likely that she has a brain tumor that is causing the seizures. I am grateful to have found this post and have learned a lot from your stories. I have a few questions for you:
    1. How do we know that the seizures are not painful? My vet said that having a strong seizure is the equivalent of a very strenuous isometric exercise session and is not only exhausting, but can cause a lot of muscular pain during the seizure and soreness afterward, especially for such an old cat. Does anyone know a person who has had seizures to ask them if it hurts?
    2. The vet put her on prednisone to reduce any potential inflammation caused by the presence of the tumors, thus lowering the pressure on her brain. Does anyone know if phenobarbital is good for cats who have tumor-related seizures and not epilepsy?
    3. The vet also said that we could expect her seizures to become more frequent, and longer over time. He suggested that we keep a close eye on her and if her seizures become too frequent or long in duration, that we should put her to sleep. What is your experience with how long cats can have this condition and still be fine in between the seizures? At what point is it time to make that hardest-of-decisions and put the cat to sleep?

  249. andrea | November 12, 2008 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    My cat was diagnosed today with epilepsy after a blood test ruled out other possible problems. Is PB the only way to go? What happens if I choose not to put her on drugs? Not only am I concerned about pumping her little body full of drugs, I’m also worried about being consistent in medicating her and finding help in taking care of her when we’re not home on weekends every now and then.

  250. Kim | November 12, 2008 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    If you dont medicate her and she has epilepsy she will just keep having seizures. After reading above I have noticed seizures vary greatly in cats from blank stares to grand mal. I guess it would depend on what kind of seizures she is having. My fred has grand mal, so there is peeing, drooling etc so i definitally wanted him medicated and I also worry about what to do with the whole med situation. He is on meds 2x a day, so for his lifetime my life revolves around a 7 and 7 pill giving. There are places you can pay to have someone come give him pills if you are unable. Now he didnt stop having seizures with just the pb so they added potassium bromide which is a liquiid and given only 1x a day. The vet said in the future if he is seizure free for so long we could consider reducing the pb maybe even all together which would mean he would just be on a 1 day med….. but that is far into the future…